TBF, on Debian apt install firefox installs firefox-esr, and on Ubuntu it’s a placeholder that installs the snap package. Both work and are clearly better than downloading from random websites, but they do come with surprises for unsuspecting users.
I use Octopi generally, though the add/remove software app is prettier. If I have to install software via the command line I always have to double check the syntax. The command like version existing is extremely useful as a fallback though, and most (all?) gui package managers act as wrappers around the command line. So don’t dunk on the command line
Not wrong about OP, but also both major desktop environments on linux ship with “app stores” that are friendly to anyone familiar with a phone. So it’s still easier installing software on linux than searching for and downloading .msi and .exe files on the internet (and hoping the version of MSI afterburner you found is the real one).
Search " software "click download, accept security warning, navigate to wherever your default download location is, double click installer, click your way through the installer (make sure do deselect whatever crapware it tries to package along with).
And rm won’t work either, since you (probably) don’t have files named - and rf, and then it will complain that / is a directory. And even if we correct that, you forgot to pass --no-preserve-root.
From there you click Firefox, then you click the download link it gives you on the next page, that downloads a file (still not installed) or takes you to an app store if you’re on a phone, you run that file or click install on the app store to actually install the application.
Great, you’re halfway there with that sarcasm. Now apply that to the comment chain you posted in and… hell why you’re here the post itself and you’ll get it now.
People still try to claim Linux is complicated and has a lot of unnecessary steps to install stuff and it just isn’t true for vast majority of people installing the vast majority of stuff.
The reason tutorials are always based on terminal commands is because it’s much harder to describe directions for a GUI, and it’s also a lot more prone to change. When the command is just a single line, not images or dependencies, that’s obviously better.
Literally easier than Windows.
People are falling for this and downloading software from unofficial websites.
Linux is super easy.
TBF, on Debian
apt install firefoxinstalls firefox-esr, and on Ubuntu it’s a placeholder that installs the snap package. Both work and are clearly better than downloading from random websites, but they do come with surprises for unsuspecting users.That’s because debian stable need ESR packages to make any sense, on debian unstable (debian Sid) you get the normal package
Why is Ubuntu even still relevant?
Inertia?
Or even: yay firefox
or even: yay -S librewolf-bin
No need. Librewolf got added to extra repo. yay librewolf or pacman -S librewolf will do just fine.
👍
yay firefoxdoesyay -Ss firefox.Which, in turn, does
me: yay! 🥳Thinking a command line is easier than double clicking an installer shows how far you linux users are devoid from the common user.
I use Octopi generally, though the add/remove software app is prettier. If I have to install software via the command line I always have to double check the syntax. The command like version existing is extremely useful as a fallback though, and most (all?) gui package managers act as wrappers around the command line. So don’t dunk on the command line
I find installing or running software from the cli is excellent for getting hints and clues to errors that the gui won’t show you.
Not wrong about OP, but also both major desktop environments on linux ship with “app stores” that are friendly to anyone familiar with a phone. So it’s still easier installing software on linux than searching for and downloading .msi and .exe files on the internet (and hoping the version of MSI afterburner you found is the real one).
that’s not what devoid means.
Common users type into chatbots. They can 100% type the install commands. But also using the Bazaar or software center is super easy.
Vs
Search "
software"click download, accept security warning, navigate to wherever your default download location is, double click installer, click your way through the installer (make sure do deselect whatever crapware it tries to package along with).Yup, the Windows way is totally so much easier.
https://mozilla.org/
yay -S firefox
Which is harder to type?
what do you do with the extra 2 seconds?
Sudo rm - rf /
🤷♂️
bash: Sudo: command not foundAnd
rmwon’t work either, since you (probably) don’t have files named-andrf, and then it will complain that/is a directory. And even if we correct that, you forgot to pass--no-preserve-root.Maybe they are being nice to people trying to test a random command from the internet.
My wife.
2 whole seconds? You animal.
So going to mozilla.org then immediately installs firefox?
Yep, you should try it
It doesn’t and you know that.
From there you click Firefox, then you click the download link it gives you on the next page, that downloads a file (still not installed) or takes you to an app store if you’re on a phone, you run that file or click install on the app store to actually install the application.
Wow! That sounds complicated and seems like a lot of unnecessary steps
Great, you’re halfway there with that sarcasm. Now apply that to the comment chain you posted in and… hell why you’re here the post itself and you’ll get it now.
People still try to claim Linux is complicated and has a lot of unnecessary steps to install stuff and it just isn’t true for vast majority of people installing the vast majority of stuff.
To be fair, I’m guessing that most people will just type “Firefox” into Google and click the first link
mmh http://mozilla.org/ IMO
It should take a moment or two to install. /s
CachyOS # pacman -S firefox-wayland-cachy-hg
edit: BTW
Ok but also
winget install mozilla.firefoxIt’s not binary
It actually is a binary. Though you can probably find some version to compile in the AUR
slow clap
click the store basket icon.
type the name of the program.
press install.
The reason tutorials are always based on terminal commands is because it’s much harder to describe directions for a GUI, and it’s also a lot more prone to change. When the command is just a single line, not images or dependencies, that’s obviously better.
i know. outlines how easy it is tho.
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I use discover on opensuse tumbleweed. Simple, easy, and I can choose the source from flathub and tumbleweed when both are available.
I did have an issue once but it turned out that it was network related and not my config.
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steam just works for me. flatpak has been working better and better over time for me.
it’s getting polished as we speak, slowly but surely.