• EmmiLime@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    hmm, those both choices you laid out; how do the people outside your country get affected by these elections?

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      2 days ago

      Generally, much worse under republicans. Republicans like to start wars.

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        If you are saying this unironically you need to open a history book and look outside your bubble. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, Haiti, former Yugoslavia, Sudan, Gaza, Vietnam, Dominican Republic, Somalia and many many more attacked and or destroyed under democrats.

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        2 days ago

        Republicans like to start wars.

        Compared to Democrats? How? Libya, Syria and Yemen were attacked under a Democratic president. In fact, Kamala said that Iran is the greatest threat in the world.

        Or better yet, the escalation of the genocide under Joe Biden? The genocidal monster who loves “Israel” so much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYLNCcLfIkM

        Turns out, outside of Amerika; there is in fact not a single fucking difference between these 2 parties. All you care about is domestic affair concerning your treats. You don’t give a fuck about people outside your area.

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          Turns out, outside of Amerika; there is in fact not a single fucking difference between these 2 parties. All you care about is domestic affair concerning your treats. You don’t give a fuck about people outside your area.

          🫰🫰🫰(That’s snapping btw lol)

          Like I don’t even expect people to overthrow the government tomorrow or whatever. Shit’s scary, I get it. But like, it would be super cool if they could stop aggressively defending the child crushing in front of the world, on the internet. As a start.

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            Idk how they can be so weak, they’re truly little scared animals with no honour. We don’t have to and we may even not be able to fix the issues, but to not even admit to them to make ourselves feel better? Jeez. 😔🤷‍♂️

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              What most people want is not and has never been a going concern in the bourgeois neo-aristocracy of Amerika

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              No. In fact one of Trump’s campaign promises was that he wouldn’t start foreign wars, and it polled as highly popular. Anyone that wasn’t an idiot knew that was a lie, but at least he had the decency to lie about it. Democrats couldn’t even muster up that much courage.

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              Hello, I am a politician running on a proud history of supporting every war the US has been engaged in within my lifetime, as well as most of those outside of it. I would like to thank you for your vote, and please tell me - was your vote for me because of my warmongering or in spite of it? I sincerely await your answer, as it will mean a lot to what sort of policy I pursue <- How you seem to imagine it works when people vote for a warhawk despite their hawkishness.

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                So here, you say it’s the practical effects of my vote (electing a warhawk) that matters, not the ideals behind it that wish for a different outcome (foreign wars are often harmful and unnecessary). But when I’m voting in the general, suddenly those ideals (voting third party) would be more important than the practical effect (getting a republican elected)? Is there a reason for this difference?

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                11 hours ago

                You said they were defending the child crushing online. If you didn’t mean you think they support foreign wars, what did you mean?

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          2 days ago

          In my entire lifetime, only republicans have started wars, and only democrats have ended them. I’m almost 40.

          In fact, Kamala said that Iran is the greatest threat in the world.

          And Donald Trump started a war with them.

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            In my entire lifetime, only republicans have started wars

            Are you less than two years old? Did you already forget that the most recent blue government invaded Yemen and prepared to invade Iran?

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            -Libya

            -Niger

            -Syria

            -Yemen

            All places intervened in by a democrat in recent memory, both parties are extremely militaristic.

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              2 days ago

              Are you implying that Joe Biden started the Ukraine War and the Gaza War?

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                NATO had been pushing for war with Russia for a while. It finally got it.

                So yeah, either of the recent blue governments can be said to have started the war.

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                    Do you think whatever your favorite country is would tolerate a fascist coup in a neighboring state and the massive buildup of a hostile army on that border?

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                    History started on the day Russia invaded. Anything leading up to that can safely be ignored. We have always been at war with oceania

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                    “Ignoring Russia” is when you (the most prolific invader in the world) declare your intent to antagonise Russia, do a coup against a neighbouring neutral state, and attempt to get your military to its border.

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                Biden supported Israel on day one of the war with everything he could even bypassing congress so yes, also its the Israeli–Palestinian war btw you dont call the other the Donbass war now do you?

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                    if wikipedia said trump won the 2020 election would you believe it?

                    also

                    This article is about the ongoing war in the Gaza Strip and Israel. For the broader conflicts, see Gaza–Israel conflict and Israeli–Palestinian conflict.

                    or do you refer to WW2 as the Polish German war?

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                I’m trying to understand what starting a war means such that you can say it was only the republicans.

                There are other conflicts in there that are listed with dem presidents.