No single country should be able to restrict speech across the entire internet. That's why EFF celebrates the news that Australia's eSafety Commissioner is dropping its legal effort to have content on X taken down across the globe. This development comes just days after EFF and FIRE were granted official intervener status in the case.
Or a video of your wife being tortured or raped? Suddenly its not ok? What happens if the family of the victims don’t want it up? They don’t want to be reminded of that shit. You say this only because it doesn’t affect you in this case and it’s not your family
it DOES affect me because I’m in Australia, and we don’t want copycat dickheads. We don’t want school shooting 5x a week, and we don’t want organisations like the NRA coming to australia and using this shit as an excuse for everyone to arm themselves. The worlds worst extremists dickheads love pushing videos like this because it helps their agenda.
There’s no incentive for Elon to take any of this stuff down either… It profits him. It’s funny that people like Elon have a cry about people tracking his plane and gets what he wants and everyone calls him a nutjob… But, then he profits from stuff that has REAL consequences that affects everyone, and he is defended.
What about the US where Trump used inflamatory language on social media which led to an attempt to the overthrow of the government.
Lets not pretend, this is about freedom of speech. This is explicitly because its not profitable to censor posts. Elon can pretend like he’s the good guy in this case and keep all the people who want it to be kept up, and all the people who want it down. Why do you think X seems to be the preferred platform for bigots and nazi’s? It would be good if we could see how much profit they were generating for him
There needs to be some international rules about some of this stuff. I’m not saying blanket ban for everything, but, there should at least be rules where people are harmed, torture, or violence is encouraged
I am not saying that this content should be allowed or disallowed. All I am saying is that one shouldn’t have jurisdiction over any country. If they want to have it removed via official government channels. Just don’t try to force it world wide.
Also you are falling into the trap of censorship. Once you start mandating it it is a very slippery slope. It starts with public safety and ends with attacks on journalism. I can’t and shouldn’t control what happens in Australia but in my own country I will continue to support free speech as it is critical for democracy.
Additionally Elon was not even mentioned in this article. I’m sure he knew about it but he didn’t comment publicly. Just because you hate some billionaire doesn’t mean he plotting.
And this is only the times I could find him tweeting about it on his personal account. It doesn’t include any of his multiple retweets of other people who were arguing in support of his position (including comparisons to Nazi Germany and Hitler), or any statements he gave directly to the media. It is rather ironic that you went after the previous person for some supposed “hatred” of Musk - maybe we need to be questioning your bias as well, considering you just straight up lied about his involvement in the saga.
It’s NOT a slippery slope. You just define the bounds lol
International laws already exist for a lot of things
Again, if its your family, suddenly people like you care.
It’s like freedom to carry guns in the US… That is working out SO WELL, and the NRA will argue that once you take away guns, it’s a slippery slope, the government will control you, etc. None of that happens.
The slippery slope argument doesn’t really work well, and throughout the years, people have used it to argue against everything from seat belts, to restrictions on kids toys
Each country is free to create whatever rules they want for their country, but for people that don’t live in those countries then there is nothing more to say. There can be voluntary international cooperation (like there is with copyrighted works) but if I live somewhere that isn’t part of that international cooperation then like it or not, I am free to violate your laws all day.
What if its Child porn or revenge porn?
Or a video of your wife being tortured or raped? Suddenly its not ok? What happens if the family of the victims don’t want it up? They don’t want to be reminded of that shit. You say this only because it doesn’t affect you in this case and it’s not your family
it DOES affect me because I’m in Australia, and we don’t want copycat dickheads. We don’t want school shooting 5x a week, and we don’t want organisations like the NRA coming to australia and using this shit as an excuse for everyone to arm themselves. The worlds worst extremists dickheads love pushing videos like this because it helps their agenda.
There’s no incentive for Elon to take any of this stuff down either… It profits him. It’s funny that people like Elon have a cry about people tracking his plane and gets what he wants and everyone calls him a nutjob… But, then he profits from stuff that has REAL consequences that affects everyone, and he is defended.
What about the US where Trump used inflamatory language on social media which led to an attempt to the overthrow of the government.
Lets not pretend, this is about freedom of speech. This is explicitly because its not profitable to censor posts. Elon can pretend like he’s the good guy in this case and keep all the people who want it to be kept up, and all the people who want it down. Why do you think X seems to be the preferred platform for bigots and nazi’s? It would be good if we could see how much profit they were generating for him
There needs to be some international rules about some of this stuff. I’m not saying blanket ban for everything, but, there should at least be rules where people are harmed, torture, or violence is encouraged
I am not saying that this content should be allowed or disallowed. All I am saying is that one shouldn’t have jurisdiction over any country. If they want to have it removed via official government channels. Just don’t try to force it world wide.
Also you are falling into the trap of censorship. Once you start mandating it it is a very slippery slope. It starts with public safety and ends with attacks on journalism. I can’t and shouldn’t control what happens in Australia but in my own country I will continue to support free speech as it is critical for democracy.
Additionally Elon was not even mentioned in this article. I’m sure he knew about it but he didn’t comment publicly. Just because you hate some billionaire doesn’t mean he plotting.
“Didn’t comment publicly”? Is this a joke comment or are you really this uninformed? The guy was constantly tweeting about it:
April 19
April 19
April 20
April 20
April 22
April 22
April 22
April 23
April 23
April 24
April 28
May 10
May 11
June 5
And this is only the times I could find him tweeting about it on his personal account. It doesn’t include any of his multiple retweets of other people who were arguing in support of his position (including comparisons to Nazi Germany and Hitler), or any statements he gave directly to the media. It is rather ironic that you went after the previous person for some supposed “hatred” of Musk - maybe we need to be questioning your bias as well, considering you just straight up lied about his involvement in the saga.
It’s NOT a slippery slope. You just define the bounds lol
International laws already exist for a lot of things
Again, if its your family, suddenly people like you care.
It’s like freedom to carry guns in the US… That is working out SO WELL, and the NRA will argue that once you take away guns, it’s a slippery slope, the government will control you, etc. None of that happens.
The slippery slope argument doesn’t really work well, and throughout the years, people have used it to argue against everything from seat belts, to restrictions on kids toys
Each country is free to create whatever rules they want for their country, but for people that don’t live in those countries then there is nothing more to say. There can be voluntary international cooperation (like there is with copyrighted works) but if I live somewhere that isn’t part of that international cooperation then like it or not, I am free to violate your laws all day.
Exactly
Also I think this kind of behavior could strain international relations.