And “install” is literally optional
Using Windows for me is a cumulation of annoying little things that becomes too big to ignore. Another thing you can add on that list is fiddling with keyboard layouts if you don’t use the default US one. And be sure to delete them all except the one you want to use, even the sub layouts, because accidentally hitting a key combo could switch it back to the default US one.
It’s a specific pet peeve that I have against Windows. I’ve had so many calls (I do tech support) from people that had their computer suddenly not making the characters they wanted, sometimes only in specific programs, just to discover that they reverted to the default layout by hitting Win + spacebar at some point.
I just wish I could run Linux without CLI
I recently had to install Windows 11 from a USB for a friend building a PC. The last time I did that was Windows 7, and oh boy, has that process been enshittified to hell since then.
Honestly, I think I will refuse to install Windows when helping with future PC builds, just because it was such a pain-in-the-ass. The amount of adware you had to actively refuse, through a maze of dark-pattern designs was borderline dystopian.
True, but from my distro-hopping I learned there are quite a few Linux distros that throw tantrums when you try to install w/o wifi, and some ISOs that flat out don’t allow it. I’m not technically sharp enough to find the link, but this and most of my other problems with Linux went away when I stopped using distros built with systemd.
CachyOS is fast, sure. But have you tried Void? MX? Artix? PCLinuxOS? All very fast, and way fewer tantrums/stability issues. Systemd acts like a bureaucrat that checked out long ago, but keeps the job because of the benefits and does it as spitefully as possible. It’s about what I’d expect from a corp like Red Hat, and one day it’ll ask for your government ID to install.
The Linux community should get serious about systemd and how it talks to newcomers about it. It’s annoying now, and it’ll be a liability later.
You can install them all without WiFi easily by plugging in an ethernet cable. Easy.
I meant to say internet. Tysm for correcting me. I’m truly grateful and humbly request that you take an unchaperoned bath with my teenage daughters.
then quit using it. take off your leash.
I mean you don’t even have to install, just boot the iso and click try now
You can, though. When it prompts you to make a Microsoft Account, select Other Options, Domain Account, and create a local account. You don’t actually have to join the PC to a domain :)
I think only business/pro SKUs allow this though?
Very possible, I am dealing with business/pro SKUs most often. I think it works on all editions, but not sure.
That’s still a ridiculous dark pattern, in my opinion no better than tabbing over to the command line. Nice to know that you can though, next time I need windows 11 for anything.
I agree it it dumb that it’s hidden away in a GUI menu, but it does exist. But why let something as silly as facts get in the way of a good WindowsBad! circlejerk?
start ms-cxh:localonly or one of those rufus unattended things are the only ways i could ever set up Windows anymore, their stock config is some bullshit
Shift + f10 for cmd. Then do “start ms-cxh:localonly” and hit enter. Enjoy local user profile without internet.
Worry not, Canonical will have you holding its beer in no time.
RUFUS will build you a Windows installer that automatically bypasses the Microsoft Account requirement.
It also lets you bypass TPM 2.0 and lets you remove a lot of bloatware so it doesn’t even get installed in the first place.
The lower half of this meme is getting old to the point of being a bad joke. No-one does this except normies and people who buy pre-built systems that come with Windows already installed.
The point isn’t that an easy option for the bypass exists, but that a bypass is required at all. It shouldn’t be.
A clean install will need a USB installer anyhow. So build it with RUFUS and enjoy the lack of a manual bypass.
So… Every business ever, then?
The other one I’ve noticed is that they’ve stopped shipping necessary drivers with the install iso now, so if you do make the decision to install fresh, enjoy using the nipple on your Lenovo laptop because the trackpad and network driver didn’t come with the iso.
I’m so unbelievably tired of being a windows admin
Source: I did the windows install song and dance this morning
So tired of keeping like 10 different ethernet dongles, 5 of one model and 5 of another, because half of the new laptops can’t even connect to the internet with the windows install ISO due to lack of drivers.
Sometimes one of those 2 models will also refuse to work with the windows ISO, so ig fuck you if you’re trying to install windows on more than 5 computers at the same time.
Oh and of course you still need to do the bypass even if you don’t have drivers for the network card. Ig also fuck you too if you don’t know about it, because you’re never gonna install windows on that laptop.
So tired of keeping like 10 different ethernet dongles, 5 of one model and 5 of another, because half of the new laptops can’t even connect to the internet with the windows install ISO due to lack of drivers.
Welcome back to the Win95/98/SE/XP era. Where everything old is new again.
Actually insane how far we’ve regressed in Windows land
It really feels like Ubuntu in 2008 whereas current Ubuntu or any other Linux Distro is infinitely easier to deal with nowadays.
MS has just fumbled the ball at every turn.
Still true that bypassing TPM means major upgrades are disabled and requires manual install by iso?
No-one does this except normies and people who buy pre-built systems that come with Windows already installed.
So the majority does this, then?
mfs will learn powershell to debloat windows 11 and wade through regedit but the intuitive linux terminal is STILL too goddamn scary
intuitive linux terminal
Which one is that? Powershell is way more intuitive than bash and I like bash.
bash is more intuive than pwsh imo.
Is it? I find them both equally unintuitive tbh. You really just have to memorize the commands you frequently use, or keep looking them up.
Powershells commands are “Verb-Noun” and it makes it easy to search for the command you need. For example Get-Help Get-* will give you a list of all the “Get” commands and a brief description of what they do. Get-Verb will list the approved verbs so you know what verbs to search for. All within the shell. If there’s anything like that in bash I haven’t found it. I always have to search the web to figure out what I’m trying to do with it. Which can be annoying if I’m working directly on a headless system. Powershell also has aliases built in for bash and cmd commands so you can use those if you’re familiar with them. I hate Microsoft but it’s one thing I have to give hand to them.
That’s not to say bash is bad. It’s great. It’s just not nearly as intuitive.
In bash if you type the verb, then hit tab it will list the possible options, right? Is that not the same kind of thing?
Tab completion isn’t really what I’m talking about here. Powershell’s intuitiveness comes from the ease of finding the command you need. For instance if you type “copy” into bash and hit tab you’re not going to get anything. That’s because the command for copying a file in bash is “cp”. Now, how do you find that out using only the shell? You can use apropos, but who’s going to be able to figure that out without a web search? I had to try several variations of “find commands in bash” just now to get Google to mention it. Most things in bash are like this, there’s no real naming convention and most of the time the names are pretty meaningless by themselves. It’s a big barrier for people who are new to it or only use it sporadically.
Conversely, typing “copy” into powershell and hitting tab you will get a number of options which shouldn’t take much for a beginner to locate copy-item from there or you can find it via the previous methods I mentioned.
I genuinely think you may just be more familiar with PS. I use “Get-Printer” all the time, but it’s not like I was able to discover that command or syntax without web searches. Same with “cp” in bash. I had to learn it and use it, but I’m never going to forget it now. Something that seems inconsistent/unintuitive to me in PS, is some commands specify an object with:
-Name ="the name"Other times it’s like:
Name "the name"I keep a notebook handy for things that I use as frequently as several times a week.
Powershell is just json with jq abilities
But it is intuitive. There’s no arguing that.
My main gripe is the clicking.
Clicking clicking clicking.
I’ve got keybord navigation down to an art-
But sometimes you have to click.
You have to move your hand from your… Keyboard, let’s say, and switching to mouse, and that split second matters because it throws everything out of rhythm, causing friction where none is needed.
Clicking, clicking, clicking.
That’s my main gripe.
The clicking.
I am Anna, and this is my testimony.
Commit your testimony to an archive.
You could even name it… Anna’s archive.
even for currently running PCs, sometimes i swear to God it’s like dejavu : my laptop suddenly asks if i want to use the OneDrive and Office sub. You know that screen when you do the Win 11 setup.
The only way to exit is via the “Remind me later”, which is even more BS. You cant even Decline.
