I’ve been worked there, for not nearly that amount of money :(
Honestly, this is what we currently have at our mid sized company. We get paid dogshit, nobody has a dedicated position we’re just all “IT” and we do everything to keep shit running
A German three letter agency had a similar ad. They were looking for someone who was proficient in encryption, hacking, protocols on Windows, Mac and Linux, and a few other things in that area. Experienced both in programming and leadership. And as a cherry on the top, this person would have to have knowledge about all the legal aspects of all of this, too.
All for a midrange bureaucrat salary. A security expert commented on this something like “if i had someone with that kind of skill set and experience, I would hire him out for a daily fee about as high as their offered monthly salary.”
Many years ago I got offered 20% over minimum wage to manage, among other things, all email servers of a large banking association representing >90% of a national market.
It was less than what a Tesco cashier was making in the area.
When I was a student, I already had my Novell admin certificate, so it got some jobs on the side. Someone pointed me to a law firm where the owner wanted their PCs networked. We met, he showed me the list of hardware he wanted to buy - everything top notch, big server, new PCs with all bells, whistles and gongs back then, 19in rack for all the necessities, etc. That list was an offer from an expensive office outfitter he knew.
He “just” needed someone to install the stuff. I could easily have done that, but all he offered was a kind of internship. Oh what I could learn from working with top of the pop equipment! I told him I was here because it already knew everything that was needed. He then offered me that I could take the old PCs as “compensation”.
I left, and warned others not to waste time with that idiot.
And people still get mad when we give honest feedback about compensation.
Shout-out to the recruiter who tried to convince me to take a 60k paycut because nobody will pay my current rate ( the one I was already being paid ). I strive to reach your level of audacity one day.
P1: Printer not working again!
P2: Ah I’ll go tell that programmer guy
That company, probably
“You’re good with computers, right?”
I swear these people probably ask their Uber drivers to fix their transmission because they’re “good with cars”.
Eh I had a job like this. Was for a small company. If that was a large corp id say fuck no but if small company? Its fine.
Exactly. Company makes doors, by hand. 10 employees total and 2 computers. Easiest job you’ve ever had and you actually feel guilty every time they pay you for the first few months.
That shit would be 45-60k here and it infuriates me.
Fuckin sherman oaks ca too. That 110k isn’t going far
Am I crazy that those sound reasonable IT manager level things? If company size is 100-200 endpoints, the IT manager should understand all of these, if he/she doesn’t, I would not want to work at that IT team
You’re not crazy, it’s just that posts like this are generally tribal. Nobody here actually knows what the day-to-day of that job is, they just want a pretext to vent about their own experiences of being asked to do work that they didn’t want to do.
also potentially unpopular opinion: I’ve encountered about as many engineers over the years that were under-skilled for their positions, than ones who were competent. Whenever I see posters whine about how unreasonable the requirements for a job posting is, I always instinctively read it in one of the former’s voices…
It manager level for entry level pay
110k usd is entry level pay? I hate america so much its unreal.
“Manager” in this context generally doesn’t mean someone who has people reporting to them, it means someone who manages the IT. It can absolutely be an early-career role. See also: equipment manager, facilities manager etc.
Have you seen pay these days? Where are you getting 110k entry level?
The pay scale people have become accustomed to is absurd.
I guess where I work, if you’re on carpet you’re 80-110k salary for jobs like purchasing, inventory etc not engineers or supoort. if you work in shipping or manufacturing you’re around 65-85k depending on experience
Must be nice
California has a minimum wage for software employees to be salaried and not pay them overtime (salaried exempt). It’s about $123k. I’ve never seen an entry level position that didn’t expect overtime, so $110k is actually low unless it’s a part time internship.
Also leaving that link there for anyone who might have just discovered their employer is doing wage theft and owes them a lot of money.
Ok anywhere with a cost of living that isn’t California
If it’s an onsite position, it depends on living costs.
Some people are claiming 3k for rent is the minimum in the area. Just north of Beverly Hills.
That’s half the salary, just for a studio apartment. Then there’s another chunk for taxes and they’re left with 1-2k for general expenses and living life.
Salaries isn’t a simple thing you can move from one area to another
I’ve worked at places with <50 people where the 2 IT people had “manager” titles, but they were just “the IT people” in practice - one handled user stuff, the other was focused on the client-facing infrastructure.
Our lone HR person was also the “HR manager”, we had a single “accounting manager”, and a couple more like that. Some departments ended up expanding and the “managers” did end up with direct reports, but that’s kinda just how small businesses work, this posting sounds a lot like that.
There’s not enough hours in day to do all those tasks that this will entail. You’ll constantly be dragged between different domains nd have no time to focus on anything
Source: I’ve done this job before. Company wasn’t even big either. Just 30 people or so
Honestly for 30 people it’s understandable, hiring properly would be like 10% of the company already lol
When you consider that IT is used by everyone and often the entire company is built on IT and communication i would hire properly
Depends if the company is growing or just a small company
Typical of a 20-30 people company where everyone has to do different things.
Our client is a large Law Firm in Los Angeles (Sherman Oaks Area) that is looking to hire a talented IT Manager. They have an excellent culture and do a great job at retaining their staff long-term. This person MUST live in LA and be willing to be on site!!
Though it’s not an IT company so their IT department may very well be like 2 or 3 people
Sounds like their IT team is going to be this one person
Yes, that’s pretty normal outside of IT companies and gigantic non-IT companies.
Wait this is just my current job but with double the pay…
fuck I gotta get a new job
Sammmmmme
same here, ouch
Yeah, you need a new job. This is also my current job for not enough pay. You’re getting shafted.
With that being said, this isn’t really 3 jobs like the post implies. If you’ve worked with data integrations before, you know how SQL, APIs and cloud solutions interact.
Shhh don’t let hr know, or your manager
I really thought the response was an AI suggestion at first glance; that would’ve been hilarious.
I usually reply to shit job offers and tell them why it’s shit.
Even when I’m not interested in the job, if it’s anything but full time work from home I’ll let them know I’m only considering ft wfh so that they either raise their offer or reconsider their in-office requirement for the next person that’s actually interested.
That looks closer to a 220~260k salary job posting.
100~110k in LA area is entry level IT.
in the rest of the world that is basically a three-job salary.
It’s USD 8333 per month, or EUR 7177. I wouldn’t say 3 jobs, but pretty good even if it has to feed a whole family and/or taxes are high.
You aren’t going to get close to that amount per month after taxes and health care. Its definitely not minimum wage, its around a teacher salary, or entry level office worker
Yeah I was gonna say. I didn’t understand what people were complaining about, that’s loads of money to me. I know stuff’s more expensive in the US but it’s not that much more expensive that 100k isn’t an insane amount of money to live off.
That’s about 5-6k a month pay, with rent around 3-4k a month
100k/12≈8k, including taxes, after taxes idk depends where you live. My rent is the majority of my income, and I make much less than that, so the absolute amount of money I have after paying for things like rent and utilities, to spend on food, is much less too, even if we assume the same % of income going to rent. Again I’m not saying things aren’t more expensive in the US, but it is still a lot of money. You aren’t going to be struggling financially. My friends in the US make much less than that. Maybe you’d be less well-off than peers who do the same job, but I hope you realise that for a lot of people elsewhere in the world, that’d be 3 salaries already.
Yeah its not a bad pay, my wife makes close to that amount, I make less and we were able to buy a house after we split the mortgage with her parents instead of paying two rents, we are comfortable just a bit cramped and now have about two hour commute a day, my job offers free ev charging so that saves us about $500 a month we used to spend on gas
Two hour commute is quite a lot. Can you not change job?
We could, but not for the same pay. For example my wife is a teacher if she switches to a local school the salary is 20k less. Another big thing is my job doesn’t have a set schedule so when we all commute together I’m not really in a rush as long as she gets there on time. And my parents live right by her school so we can drop off our kid, then I drop her off, and my job is like 15 minutes further so it kind of just works.
When she’s on summer break I can go to work earlier like 5 or 6am and avoid traffic which cuts the commute in half
You have to have so much more reserves in the US because of the broken health care system, and the car dependence. I live in Germany and my wife and I were thinking about how much more we’d need to save and we found out that we didn’t need that much. Healthcare is basically free, we don’t have a car, we had enough for a new set of appliances and months of rent. All that with about a half of that salary. But in the US you can easily go broke with that amount of money if you get sick or have car troubles. Also depending on the state poor job security.
Also depending on location cost of living varies widely. That’s a really low salary for somewhere as expensive as LA.
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TBF I am offering 40k to hire someone who should do frontend, backend, GPU shader optimization, database design optimization and API design.
I have been told this requires a full team of experts. I am not a software engineer, I took the time to study and this is what I’ve been doing the past 4 years. This person will earn more than I do.
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The salary itself is a decent one. Quite above the average. Either way it is what I can offer.
I didn’t say it’s difficult to find workers: found plenty good workers for about half that salary.
I did not start interviews yet, I’m confident I will find someone.
You are undervaluing yourself right alongside the roles you’re trying to hire
Well it doesn’t say you have to do any of them well.
If its a small company you are going to have people split between multiple things as it doesn’t make financial sense to have 3 specialists.
Where I work is under 30 people, we don’t have a HR department or even a HR role. HR is done by someone who also has other roles to fill.
Well you must have excellent communication skills.
For the actual IT stuff, they don’t really care.
That one’s the dealbreaker. If you do all that stuff, you only have time for a grunt or two from behind your 17 inch TFT monitor.
I worked a short stint as a network administrator for a company I did not like at all. I figured it’d be a foot in the door, but boy was I wrong. I didn’t last 6 months, I was doing work of a network tech, network admin, security tech for door locks and cameras, a custodian, and general computer tech in all that. It was a VASTLY underpaid position for the work.
You won’t get away with 100k if printer issues are included… your soul and those of the other employees would be a start.
God, I hate printers.
Don’t work with me, I manage 60+ across 2 sites with 3 separate-function print servers.
Anyone else here still manage a fleet of dot matrix??? We’ve got about a dozen left 😅
