Hi. Is there an app that uses the Telegram client and all its cool features but uses end-to-end encryption by default? Imagine using Telegram with the Signal protocol - or even better - with the Matrix protocol. That would be so awesome. Most messaging apps, even WhatsApp, lack sooo many great features. Now imagine someone actually recreating the entire server from Telegram, making everything end-to-end encrypted and decentralized (federated/P2P).
You could keep an eye on this: https://moxxy.org/
It’s a new work in progress XMPP client that uses the newest e2ee OMEMO standard (based on Signal but better) and the UI is a bit similar to Telegram.
However it is still a heavy work in progress, so right now I can’t really say it is ready to use.
I took a look and didn’t see any big differences with the “conversations” app. Is there any reason to go with moxxy over conversations?
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It has a significantly more modern and Telegram like UI (based on Flutter), which is what the OP asked for.
You can use Telegram or Signal with Matrix (kinda), but it loses E2EE encryption, so it loses the propose of privacy.
Good for linking communities, bad for privacy.
Such thing for Signal/Telegram didn’t see it, but it will have the same issue with E2EE
Do you lose e2ee even if you host your own bridges?
Yes, but if you host them at home (as opposed to a data-center somewhere) it is almost the same as e2ee.
Is not that simple, messages still can be intercepted and if not E2EE it can be read.
You can host the bridge, but the host are somewhere remotely
You can use e2ee with a bridge, it just makes one of the “ends” in “end-2-end-encryption” your server and not your client device (it gets re-encrypted for passing it on further to the client though). Thus if your server is at your own home it is almost the same as true e2ee with your device connecting to the same home network.
Take a look at simplex.chat
Unfortunately, SimpleX Chat are only terminal based on desktop.
I don’t get it. simplex offers a android and ios app?!
Yes, but I do use PC (Linux) more than I use Android. So a desktop client would be more suitable for me.
Ah, thanks for the clarification.
Desktop version will be released tomorrow I think. July 27. They are hosting an online event about that. They will also show to people how to host SimpleX relay with dual public + onion address.
Sweet! Can’t wait to try it out!
