It’s more like calling for the execution of the executive of a video game company.
Or fantasies about the graphic, gruesome death of some public politician who’s just a… regular human being, with a family. Not perfect, but not literally Hitler.
I don’t think it’s funny, at all.
Like, I’m all for killing Nazis, but Lemmy goes waaaay into “squick” territory.
It’s legit scary to me, and I’m more politically extreme than like 99% of the general population. But every time I bring it up, the community seems to double down on it or dismiss it as a non issue (like here).
I guess I’m just not welcome here if that makes me uncomfortable?
Examples please. Also, blaming the entirety of Lemmy for, as an example, my call for Israel to stop being a country, is the same error that got me kicked off Reddit. Context matters.
If I’m calling for them to stop being a country because of their religion or ethnicity, then I’m a bigot and a Nazi and should indeed be removed.
If I’m calling for the end of the theocratic state that holds one group above all others, then I can be reasoned with.
I see what you mean. That’s a wild energy. I get what they’re trying to say, and i also get what you mean
And yeah no I hadn’t stumbled upon that kind of tone until now.
Not that I’m surprised. I read the writings on the wall, literally. Have you noticed how much graffiti concern the literal end of the world we’re heading towards? The anxiety is deep, desperation is in the air.
That looks like mental illness. It isn’t cool to make fun of or poke those people. I just downvote and move on. If they become a problem, they can be blocked or banned like any other user.
So coy about everything. Name examples and where theyre from, because both matter greatly. The first one could be talking about the rapist blizzard execs. I don’t believe in the death penalty for multiple reasons, but im not shedding a tear over them. And the politician could be so many people including trump and gee i wonder why people would say such a thing about him and his ilk.
Youre either making things up to feel superior, misattributing them to blahaj, or just a plain bad actor with either the goal of protecting pedophiles or protecting tessersct. Could be any of those truly
“If we kill the bad guys we become bad guys too! We should just tell them to stop so we look good, send them somewhere else where we won’t have to look bad anymore or just look away until they fix themselves”
Is this your point? You’re advocating for fair fight and mutual respect with psychopaths, this isn’t some mistake or misunderstanding on their end, it’s the plan
Doesn’t seem like that to me. In an ideal world we would be able to give (ex-)nazis a chance at redemption. Probably not actual forgiveness, probably a lot of them would not take it - a tragedy. We do have to accept that this is not an ideal world and it might just happen that it would come to actual violence and death. I think it’s fair to look at people who laugh at the concept of killing a person, that deny humanity to others and be worried. Now, is it wrong to deny humanity to nazis? I personally don’t know, it certainly doesn’t automatically equate you to them, but in an ideal world it would be wrong. Its also much easier when it’s a concept of a nazi and an actual person, that one friend that got pulled into a really bad crowd and so on. This kind of memes are a very simplified narrative, and that just sometimes does not satisfy some folk
I completely agree with you on giving ex nazis chance to redeem themselves, as long as it’s far away from any position of power or authority
The issue is in getting a nazi to become ex-nazi, you can’t do it peacefully or fairly, you might not even do it altogether because the odds, the systems, the motives are all stacked against you
You’re not wrong you’re just setting the bar very high for resistance while looking away at how low fascists moved theirs, with everyone fully knowing they’ll happily kick over the whole scaffold holding it up like they did time and time again, the bar is just symbolic to them and the goal is to win and execute all other competitors at the end
It’s not about who’s moral or right, i mean sure you can make it about it you’re just not going to get anywhere while you’re growing weaker and the cage is getting smaller with time, it’s about making a change, and you’ll never achieved it unless you come to terms with how weak the resistance to fascism(and frankly everyone else not fascist) is and why it is, if anyone is going to burn a billionaire at the stake invite me please
I was defending OP more than voicing my own opinion, as I already said, I am not sure what exactly would be right, I just vibe with their perspective (at least more than some other people here) because I do see leftists voice their opinions in infuriatingly careless ways, which results in alienating some people and thus conversations like in this thread here. I don’t think this meme is particularly atrocious, but it might just have been the proverbial straw that broke camel’s back, I certainly know how that feels
It’s more like calling for the execution of the executive of a video game company.
Or fantasies about the graphic, gruesome death of some public politician who’s just a… regular human being, with a family. Not perfect, but not literally Hitler.
I don’t think it’s funny, at all.
Like, I’m all for killing Nazis, but Lemmy goes waaaay into “squick” territory.
It’s legit scary to me, and I’m more politically extreme than like 99% of the general population. But every time I bring it up, the community seems to double down on it or dismiss it as a non issue (like here).
I guess I’m just not welcome here if that makes me uncomfortable?
Examples please. Also, blaming the entirety of Lemmy for, as an example, my call for Israel to stop being a country, is the same error that got me kicked off Reddit. Context matters.
If I’m calling for them to stop being a country because of their religion or ethnicity, then I’m a bigot and a Nazi and should indeed be removed.
If I’m calling for the end of the theocratic state that holds one group above all others, then I can be reasoned with.
Do you have like a specific example? cause I haven’t personally encountered what you’re describing
Here’s an example: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/27274680
I see what you mean. That’s a wild energy. I get what they’re trying to say, and i also get what you mean
And yeah no I hadn’t stumbled upon that kind of tone until now.
Not that I’m surprised. I read the writings on the wall, literally. Have you noticed how much graffiti concern the literal end of the world we’re heading towards? The anxiety is deep, desperation is in the air.
But yeah i see what you mean
That looks like mental illness. It isn’t cool to make fun of or poke those people. I just downvote and move on. If they become a problem, they can be blocked or banned like any other user.
So coy about everything. Name examples and where theyre from, because both matter greatly. The first one could be talking about the rapist blizzard execs. I don’t believe in the death penalty for multiple reasons, but im not shedding a tear over them. And the politician could be so many people including trump and gee i wonder why people would say such a thing about him and his ilk.
Youre either making things up to feel superior, misattributing them to blahaj, or just a plain bad actor with either the goal of protecting pedophiles or protecting tessersct. Could be any of those truly
immediately going into the offence, just for him showing his concern for how toxic the space is starting to become …
Was there a reason to insinuate that he is a bad actor (and thus possibly a facist ripe for whacking?)
This user is an alt of Admiral Patrick, be aware.
Thanks Eugene,I disagree so I must be an alt
This user insults users in DMs with ableism when called out.
I guess Patrick did get harassment in his DMs, he did it. That’s technically correct.
“If we kill the bad guys we become bad guys too! We should just tell them to stop so we look good, send them somewhere else where we won’t have to look bad anymore or just look away until they fix themselves”
Is this your point? You’re advocating for fair fight and mutual respect with psychopaths, this isn’t some mistake or misunderstanding on their end, it’s the plan
Doesn’t seem like that to me. In an ideal world we would be able to give (ex-)nazis a chance at redemption. Probably not actual forgiveness, probably a lot of them would not take it - a tragedy. We do have to accept that this is not an ideal world and it might just happen that it would come to actual violence and death. I think it’s fair to look at people who laugh at the concept of killing a person, that deny humanity to others and be worried. Now, is it wrong to deny humanity to nazis? I personally don’t know, it certainly doesn’t automatically equate you to them, but in an ideal world it would be wrong. Its also much easier when it’s a concept of a nazi and an actual person, that one friend that got pulled into a really bad crowd and so on. This kind of memes are a very simplified narrative, and that just sometimes does not satisfy some folk
I completely agree with you on giving ex nazis chance to redeem themselves, as long as it’s far away from any position of power or authority
The issue is in getting a nazi to become ex-nazi, you can’t do it peacefully or fairly, you might not even do it altogether because the odds, the systems, the motives are all stacked against you
You’re not wrong you’re just setting the bar very high for resistance while looking away at how low fascists moved theirs, with everyone fully knowing they’ll happily kick over the whole scaffold holding it up like they did time and time again, the bar is just symbolic to them and the goal is to win and execute all other competitors at the end
It’s not about who’s moral or right, i mean sure you can make it about it you’re just not going to get anywhere while you’re growing weaker and the cage is getting smaller with time, it’s about making a change, and you’ll never achieved it unless you come to terms with how weak the resistance to fascism(and frankly everyone else not fascist) is and why it is, if anyone is going to burn a billionaire at the stake invite me please
I was defending OP more than voicing my own opinion, as I already said, I am not sure what exactly would be right, I just vibe with their perspective (at least more than some other people here) because I do see leftists voice their opinions in infuriatingly careless ways, which results in alienating some people and thus conversations like in this thread here. I don’t think this meme is particularly atrocious, but it might just have been the proverbial straw that broke camel’s back, I certainly know how that feels
Why does this scare you?