The amendment mechanism is specified in the constitution itself, but doesn’t have an exemption for the section on amendments. Hence you can make an amendment that makes the state a dictatorship and forbids future amendments.
The loophole is obviously the amendment mechanism - it always is. You can try to close the loophole, but it’s an impossible ask.
And besides, there’s no perfect constitution. Most countries change them pretty often. The US is an outlier in that regard with its 200+ year old constitution.
Times change and so do circumstances. Any constitution that wants to stay relevant long-term needs a way to change things to match the times and stay current.
What’s important is the entire system and bureaucracy around that sole document: it can turn the most totalitarian core democratic, or the other way around. Laws, rules of conduct, procedures… They all make a stable and coherent system. It’s not all in the constitution.
It’s that the executive has so much control of judicial. The president can fire the attorney general until he gets the one he wants. Together they can pick and choose which federal laws are enforced.
You were glad to be told “Hey, I think I found an answer to your question! Check this page!” when asking for help with a hugely frustrating problem that you had worked for weeks/months/years to solve, only you be digitally laughed at and the thread to die without getting any help?
I mean, you are entitled to your own reaction, but I had that happen several times, and my reaction was never anything even close to feeling glad.
The executive power being vested in a single person is a much bigger issue on paper. Jackson already proved the Supreme Court is toothless even when it works as intended.
I think what they are saying is that SCOTUS could simply declare someone (like the current president) to be king if they wanted, because there is no legal check on their authority
Of course. But Jackson proved you don’t even need a corrupt Supreme Court. The executive branch led by one person can decide not to enforce their ruling. I think our impeachment mechanism for removing someone from power isn’t enough to prevent a dictatorship (or even fraud in the case of Santos and Fetterman). Outside of federal judges who have very little political capital, there’s been zero full impeachments + removals of federal officials. I’m not counting resignations before removal in that.
This is the supreme court working as intended. The Supreme Court was intended as a backstop against democracy, not a system to preserve it. Less than 7% of the population was allowed to vote at the US’ founding, does that sound like a country founded by people who gave a single solitary fuck about anything besides protecting their control over “their” women and slaves?
Yup. We need a method of removing justices who ignore the literal text of the document in favor of their own opinions. The birthright citizenship thing is the hole that’s going to sink our country. It’s only a matter of time before some originalist decides that, while the first amendment literally includes the phrase “or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” the founding fathers would have really wanted us to jail all the catholics.
What’s more interesting, it seems we don’t know exactly what the loophole was because it was never published. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gödel’s_Loophole
The amendment mechanism is specified in the constitution itself, but doesn’t have an exemption for the section on amendments. Hence you can make an amendment that makes the state a dictatorship and forbids future amendments.
The loophole is obviously the amendment mechanism - it always is. You can try to close the loophole, but it’s an impossible ask.
And besides, there’s no perfect constitution. Most countries change them pretty often. The US is an outlier in that regard with its 200+ year old constitution.
Times change and so do circumstances. Any constitution that wants to stay relevant long-term needs a way to change things to match the times and stay current.
What’s important is the entire system and bureaucracy around that sole document: it can turn the most totalitarian core democratic, or the other way around. Laws, rules of conduct, procedures… They all make a stable and coherent system. It’s not all in the constitution.
It’s that the executive has so much control of judicial. The president can fire the attorney general until he gets the one he wants. Together they can pick and choose which federal laws are enforced.
That’s not true. It was published. Wikipedia in Spanish even has some archived links https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallo_de_G%C3%B6del
Rickrolling doesn’t work if u use the Voyager App, cos it prints a thumbnail of the link below it lol
Stop it with the rick rolling, it was never funny
It was funny, for like a week
As a child of the internet, yes it was.
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First of all humor is subjective. Second, what the fuck is your username?
Their username is “Raccoonwithbenefits”.
No need to thank me, I’m happy to help.
I feel compelled to thank you anyway. Thank you!
If some people are laughing and you say no one is laughing, you’re wrong.
If some people are laughing and you say people are laughing, you’re right.
I’m myself always glad to be rickrolled
You were glad to be told “Hey, I think I found an answer to your question! Check this page!” when asking for help with a hugely frustrating problem that you had worked for weeks/months/years to solve, only you be digitally laughed at and the thread to die without getting any help?
I mean, you are entitled to your own reaction, but I had that happen several times, and my reaction was never anything even close to feeling glad.
Chief, it’s okay to not like something. It’s not okay to tell other people they shouldn’t like it. What are you, a church?
What?
I clearly specified that he obviously was entitled to his own opinion, how do you get that to mean that I am trying to force him to share mine?
Oh yeah, you did, my bad. I haven’t had my medicine yet, sorry about that
It’s quite alright, it can also happen to me that I get too invested in a part of a comment that I forget about the rest.
Getting to hear a great song is a nice consolation, though.
I clicked the link on purpose, since you pointed it out. 😜
I always wonder it’s what we see now.
Supreme court justices are lifetime appointments and can freely reinterpret the law to mean what ever they want.
The executive power being vested in a single person is a much bigger issue on paper. Jackson already proved the Supreme Court is toothless even when it works as intended.
I think what they are saying is that SCOTUS could simply declare someone (like the current president) to be king if they wanted, because there is no legal check on their authority
Of course. But Jackson proved you don’t even need a corrupt Supreme Court. The executive branch led by one person can decide not to enforce their ruling. I think our impeachment mechanism for removing someone from power isn’t enough to prevent a dictatorship (or even fraud in the case of Santos and Fetterman). Outside of federal judges who have very little political capital, there’s been zero full impeachments + removals of federal officials. I’m not counting resignations before removal in that.
This is the supreme court working as intended. The Supreme Court was intended as a backstop against democracy, not a system to preserve it. Less than 7% of the population was allowed to vote at the US’ founding, does that sound like a country founded by people who gave a single solitary fuck about anything besides protecting their control over “their” women and slaves?
Yup. We need a method of removing justices who ignore the literal text of the document in favor of their own opinions. The birthright citizenship thing is the hole that’s going to sink our country. It’s only a matter of time before some originalist decides that, while the first amendment literally includes the phrase “or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” the founding fathers would have really wanted us to jail all the catholics.
all while lying about “considering xyz settled law” or “boofing in college” before being sworn in