• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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        7 hours ago

        Found another one.

        China was of course the aggressor and the lack of arms pretty much discounts this as military action. These were the equivalent of army engineers, not soldiers.

        Once again the points stands, China has not dropped a single bomb in fifty years. Of course they have supplied plenty of bombs that were used to kill people, but I digress.

        Beating each other to death with clubs makes this all better you see.

        I could only imagine the massacre if the US would have been involved, thank goodness they were not.

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          6 hours ago

          China was of course the aggressor

          China was defending it’s sovereignty. If America decided to simply start building whatever it wanted in northern Mexico or Russia simply decided to start building whatever it liked in Eastern Ukraine pre2022 I’m sure youd be raving about how terrible it was.

          lack of arms pretty much discounts this as military action. These were the equivalent of army engineers, not soldiers.

          Except this is nonsense and really shows how little you understand of the situation. The lack of arms is due to the “Agreement Between the Government of the Republic of India and the Government of the People’s Republic of China on Confidence-Building Measures in the Military Field Along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in the India-China Border Areas” signed by both countries in 1996.

          Once again the points stands

          It really doesn’t

          Of course they have supplied plenty of bombs that were used to kill people, but I digress.

          The global south being able to arm itself in the face of the largest most expansive and violent imperial power in history is good actually. Being against all violence equally is simply being for the status quo and the status quo is built on the massive immiseration of and extraction from the global south to the imperial core.

          Beating each other to death with clubs makes this all better you see.

          Fighting with far less lethal and destructive weapons to settle military disputes is better than bombing and shooting and annihilating entire regions and people’s yes.

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            3 hours ago

            Hey, I totally get you are on China’s side, but denying they were the aggressor is a little pathetic.

            Stop trying to fabricate a military action. It is silly, why do you think they fought with clubs. Denialism doesn’t look good. Also they did have arms, but they were not armed with guns initially because it was never a combat operation.

            The point doesn’t stand? Are you providing evidence China has dropped bombs in the last fifty years. I am all ears.

            I do take offense with your hand waving away China providing arms through their industrial military complex. These weapons frequently end up on both sides of a conflict and cause needless destruction and suffering.

            Also the optics of doing this in Africa are disturbing to say the least. It would almost be better if they were directly selling weapon system to Russia instead of just clandestinely providing Intel, logistics, troops, training, etc. Then it would at least look like they were impartially providing weapons of destruction used to kill civilians.

            Pretending this is merely a battle over imperialist nations is a disservice to what is really going on. Pretending China is not engaging in imperialist behavior by being an arms dealer is also disingenuous.

            There is no doubt the the US is the most destructive nation in history and has corrupted the entire world including China. This is reality.

            I appreciate your recognition that there is no need for escalation. Truly India and China are some of the more traditionally peaceful nations and due to smart negotiations limited their militarization of the border. What is disturbing is what happened. How much stress these humans must be put through to cause this behavior.

            it is clear to me China is turning into a destructive force with their proliferation of their military industrial complex. This isn’t the West versus the East or the global North versus the South this is simply a corporation making money from human suffering.