Third extended heat wave within 6 weeks.

The previous one exceeded 40°C, and the buildings not yet had time to completely cool down from that one before the third wave hit.

I was considering putting up a tent in my garden myself, but as I own a ground floor flat, the indoor temperatures did, with the help of some additional cooling measures, thankfully not exceeded 27°C.

  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 hours ago

    In my own experience, you can do some amount of heat management with those shutters and the window by chosing when you have them open and when you have them closed - whilst without aircon the appartment tends towards the average temperature of the whole day, you can push it a bit more one way or the other by managing sun exposure and air circulation in favor of the hours when the temperature is more towards the end you want.

    What I did were I live during the last heat wave (which around here had max temps above 40C) was to during most of the day keep the shutters down and the windows closed, and then during the night and in the early morning having the window open and just the holes of the shutters open (the shutters are made of strips and the are some holes between them, so when you pull them up they first just open the holes and only after all the holes parts of the strips are exposed if you keep pulling them up wil the shutters lift up - example)

    In simple terms, during the hours when the sunlight would hit my windows it was hitting the shutters instead and either being reflected or converted to heat outside rather than inside (as those shutters are installed outside), and air was allowed to circulate between the outside and inside only when it was colder outside.

    That said, for a couple of days I had to help the air circulation during the colder hours a bit with a fan, since just passive circulation through the half-open shutters wasn’t enough.

    This way I managed to keep the inside temperature mostly below 30C, with no aircon.

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      5 hours ago

      The picture of them at central park looks like the Jonestown aftermath lol. Collapsing in suits, oxfords and glasses

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    Third extended heat wave within 6 weeks.

    The previous one exceeded 40°C, and the buildings not yet had time to completely cool down from that one before the third wave hit.

    No man, you didn’t have 3 heatwaves in 6 weeks. you had 1 coldsnap in 6 weeks, where the temperatures were lower than the current normal due to global warming.

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    A couple of nights ago 2 riders in the Tour de France (from INEOS I thought) also slept on the balcony because their hotel rooms were too hot. Amazing that these athletes, who ride for 3 weeks at insane altitude (not all the time, but still) don’t even get a good night’s sleep.

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      It was the Norwegian Halland-Johannesen twins of Uno-X Mobility that had the great idea.

      All of the teams carry mobile air-conditioners and purifiers, but for unknown reasons Uno-X didn’t bring any to their hotel

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      I can do it with a fan but like, it’s not a great sleep. I also forgot I turned on the timer and I woke up almost immediately when it turned off …

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      Well, much better than the constant 32°C the neighbour in the topmost apartment had at the end of the big 10 day heatwave!
      Especially when you manage to keep the humidity in a lower range.

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      that solar is plug in balcony solar, meaning it probably doesn’t have a battery, so only works when the rest of the power grid is working. if they are in a power outage it isn’t providing power. that’s for safety reasons as they don’t want these balcony solar units to back feed into the larger power grid that would cause power companies from working on power lines

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        So, you as the owner get the cost, almost no money for the energy but also no off-the-grid security? Do i see a pattern?

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          It mainly covers your base consumption.
          Profit you make is the savings you have because you have to purchase less electric energy from your provider.
          Typically pay for themselves within 3-4years for such an installation on south facing balcony in my region.
          The rest of the 20years of its lifetime is just free money after that.
          I have a two panel installation, saving me ~120€ per year.

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    Where is this? It has outdoor-style shutters and what I suspect are German-style windows behind them.

    I love those outdoor shutters. Not only are they great for keeping the heat from getting inside, they also mean you can have a TV in a room with big windows. If you want to watch a dark movie, or any movie that would be ruined if things are too bright, you can also lower the shutters. They’d probably also be good in a violent storm.

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      Spot on, I live in Germany!
      This kind of shutters are standard here and are actually great!
      But during longer heat they still loose most of their advantage, as at some point the heat has just seeped through the massively build outer walls (and stays in the walls for a nice, cozy bedtime temperature of ~30°C on the upper floors…)

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        You can kinda do some managing of when the shutters are open, half-open or closed as well as when the windows behind them are open or closed, to keep heating from sunlight outside and tilt air-circulation in favor of the colder hours but, yeah, eventually even that is fighting the wall of the building itself having warmed up.

        Here in Portugal (were that kind of shutters are also very common) I did manage to, for most days of the one 40C+ heatwave we had, keep the indoor temperature below 30C, though it still creeped up (no doubt due to exactly that effect you mentioned of the building walls heating up) and after some days I actually had to use a fan to help air-circulation with the outside during early-morning and night when the air outside was colder.

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        Yeah, I lived in Switzerland for a time, and they’re pretty normal there too. When it got hot, sometimes I’d throw the windows wide open at night and let the place cool down to 20ish. Then, around 9am I’d shut all the windows and shades. I was also lucky because I had windows on opposite sides of the apartment, so I had good cross ventilation to blow the heat out.

        When I’d come home it would be low-20s or mid-20s inside, while outside it was above 30. But, like you said, if the heat wave lasted too long, the concrete would heat up. I’d still throw open the windows at night, but once the concrete of the building was up to about 30 degrees, even if it dropped below 20 at night, it would still be 25ish indoors in the morning.

        At that point, when it was 25ish indoors, below 25 outside (but heating up) and 30ish degrees in the walls, I wasn’t sure if it was smarter to shut everything and try to keep the warm air out, or open things and hope that the ventilation allowed the concrete to cool.

        Also, at night even though cross-ventilation was a good plan, and it cooled things off, I lived in a loud neighbourhood (by Swiss standards) and it was so much easier to sleep with the windows shut. Those windows reduce the noise from outside so much.

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      1 day ago

      Yes it looks very German: the Rolladen, the Balkonsolar and also just the steel construction style of the balcony itself

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    1 day ago

    More likely for children to play in. A tent gets very hot in the sun - even more so than an apartment.

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      But it cools down again rapidly at nighttime, other than the apartment that essentially keeps on staying at the same temperature.
      I assume that’s what they are trying to profit from here.

      While the sun is still up, it doesn’t make any sense at all staying in the tent.
      Better stay in the apartment with the blinds down and some fans running, as in most cases it will still be cooler inside than outside during daytime, and only switch to the tent during the night.

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          Telling a German to open windows is like telling a bird how to fly. Stoßlüften is down to a precise science here.

          But it doesn’t matter with the temperatures and building construction style. They retain heat like crazy. It’s not getting cold enough at night for the buildings to lose all their thermal energy, even creating air flow through the building with a fan. Source: me with all my windows open in a 4th floor apartment with the inside temperature sitting at 28°C at near midnight.

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          Open windows make it so much worse if the air is very hot and/or there is no wind - which is often the case in many places

          Said that, i syill keep them open because i got one of those fans that cool air using water which makes a lot of humidity that somehow i need to remove

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          1. Tropical nights
          2. German houses (massive walls acting like night storage ovens after some days in the heat)

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          Not that I didn’t try the fan solution. Done properly, I managed to reduce the air temperature by about 1°C by early morning compared to the evening.

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          Still not enough in some cases. My bedroom for example. It’s on the southside of the building and even with every window open and fans running till late in the night, I can still feel the temperature difference between north and south side rooms.

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    They don’t have windows or fans or what?

    Maybe just save up $200 and buy a portable AC unit instead of a tent

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      When it’s 40°C outside during the day and 27°C during the night the apartment doesn’t get the chance to cool down and fans only move hot air around. Portable air conditioners keep the dead alive with their noise while also cooling about as well as a wet rag. I totally understand the desperation of just sleeping outside during the night.

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        Have you used a portable AC made in the last decade? They’re quiet / on par with central AC these days. I have a Midea one and unless it’s on full-blast, it’s hardly noticeable beyond the sound of air moving

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    Some nights, I’m seriously considering sleeping in the hammock on my balcony. The only problem is that the sun would wake me up (and probably roast me) way before my alarm clock.

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      I did this when I was visiting Mexico. Probably some of the best sleep I’ve had in my life. Balcony was on the North side of the building. Even though it was hot outside, the extra airflow through the hammock kept me pretty cool.

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          The only minor upside from the fact, that it also is one of the driest summers in my region so far:
          No mosquitos.
          Even the freshly imported Asian Tiger Mosquitos, which normally start roaming in July and need less open water, are almost completely absent (and they are only active during daytime).