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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 8 hours ago

China Is About To Pop The AI Bubble

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China Is About To Pop The AI Bubble

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 8 hours ago
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  • SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml
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    25 minutes ago

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/09/science/nobel-winning-us-chemist-will-move-to-china-to-lead-ai-institute.html

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      13 minutes ago

      love to see the reverse brain drain

  • Sparrow_1029@programming.dev
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    TLDW:

    • China is good at compressing the existing models by stealing the answers they give you to make models that have equivalent performance that are way cheaper (plagiarism)
    • shares a bunch of clips of Ed Zitron repeating a lot of the things he said over the last six months about there not being a path to profitability for American AI companies
    • the bond market looks similar to how it did back before 2008
    • chortle_tortle@mander.xyz
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      (plagiarism)

      In AI?? How dare!

      • Sparrow_1029@programming.dev
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        HOW DARE INDEED ha thanks for the chortle 😂

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      It’s worth noting that the whole China is distilling our glorious models narrative is largely nonsense. First of all, everybody distills, so it’s not like it’s unique to Chinese companies. Second, most of actual research that’s published is now coming out of China.

      • Viceversa@lemmy.world
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        You’re from .ml, of course.

        • John@lemmy.ml
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          43 minutes ago

          Why do ya’ll always ad hominem our instance the moment somebody gives a different perspective? Like, honestly… lmfao

          • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml
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            It’s easier for their world view if they don’t see us as actual people with opinions.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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          That’s an amazing counter point, peak .world intellect on display as always.

        • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml
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          And where do you think you are, lmao?

          • Viceversa@lemmy.world
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            3 hours ago

            On Lemmy as a federation of independent servers.

            • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml
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              Aaaaand which server?

            • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Lol, lmao even

      • loathsome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
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        Making a new cheaper model involves nothing more than taking output from an openathropic model and feeding it into your own. Don’t worry about why only Chinese companies are able to do it.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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          Obviously people like Scam Altman are just too principled to stoop to the level of these savage Chinese companies.

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    “They don’t have anything for hypergrowth anymore. They don’t have the next iphone, the next google search, they don’t have anything, they’re completely out of ideas” - Ed Zitron

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    When someone watch it , pls share how china is going to pop the bubble

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      TLDW: American companies spend insane amounts of money and have no path towards profitability, and Chinese companies are spending a tiny fraction of that to deliver a product that’s mostly as good. On top of that, countries and companies are uncomfortable relying on closed models. So, Chinese providers offering open models at far lower rates mean they’re quickly taking over the market. And it turns out that simply having the best model isn’t really the most important thing. If a cheaper model can do the work then there’s no point paying order of magnitude for a more capable one.

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        Oh got it. Thank you

        • 666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world
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          And the video points out that the reason AI has trouble getting profitable is because it doesn’t just work like how tech “traditionally” works: software pretty much only has development costs, and after that copying and selling infinite copies of the product is pretty much free, where as AI not only has development costs, but it also costs a ton to provide outputs to the customers.

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    Do it. I’m done with all the bullshit.

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      7 hours ago

      The sooner it happens, the less damage there will be.

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