It’s pretty ironic to have problems with audio not recognizing headphones… on WINDOWS.
Multi-trillion (10^12) dollar company, btw.
(Both laptops are reasonably new.)
Over the years, I’ve just come to accept that, no matter the OS, there are just some things computers suck at. Working with hardware is one of them.
I’m pretty sure working with software is the other.
Windows keep re-enabling my second monitor after I disabled it, I had to disconnect video cable but in Linux it work just fine (dual boot)
LOL Yeah, I mean Linux has always had audio problems, but I find that I can solve Linux related ones mine faster than on Windows (when I used that garbage). The time it took grew smaller as my knowledge grew. Pulseaudio will randomly shit the bed and take Alsa with it. So about three terminal commands and 5 minutes later my sound is often repaired. It is weird that a billions of dollars sort of company can’t get that shit right or make it a speedy fix at the very least. The troubleshooting tool would take fucking forever and often shit the bed. Touching the Powershell was cursed, but Linux made the terminal a blessed experience!
I did IT for my company on the side of my job for a year or two.
Prolific problem where windows would disable the microphone but every single “windows tool” said it was working perfectly fine except teams would say it was not available.
The only possible fix that someone on the internet found was to download an old sketchy file from a 3rd party source for an archived version of their “pre-help-assistant AI slop” audio troubleshooter, and run that and it would immediately say “oh, it is disabled, let me re-enable it for you”
Even though every tool, setting, and even registry said it was enabled.
Microsoft has the worst audio.
The fuck of wanky-ass Windows installs are you guys running that you’d have audio issues?
Let me guess, you guys ran some weird script you found online that promised to delete all the anti-privacy features without checking what it actually did, and fucked up the whole OS so you can cirklejerk around on Linux forums complaining about Windows?
Want to bet if you did a fresh install of Windows without all the workarounds you seem to need, it will just work?
Linux audio issues were common during the transition to PulseAudio, but that was almost 20 years ago now.
I was about to say… Maybe I’ve just been lucky, but I haven’t had the slightest issue with Linux audio. Ever.
mint occasionally loses all sound devices on my media pc, but that’s usually fixed with a reboot. and easy effects caused random sound lags, so i have to live without eq.
Hard to believe it’s been that long already. Linux has come so far. I remember fighting with audio issues. The most frequent issue I remember having is not being able to have two different programs use the sound card at the same time. Haha. So no system sounds while listening to music.
Two programs not being able to use the sound card at the same time is what happens when you set a program to use an ALSA hw or plughw device instead of PulseAudio or PipeWire.
Back when I first started using Linux, PulseAudio was not yet a thing. Back then I was using Mandriva/Mandrake and Redhat (prior to switching to Enterprise).
And they continued until the transition to Pipewire.
I’ve been using Linux as my main operating system since 2010 and can’t recall having any audio issues. My desktop has 5 sound cards and they all work fine. I don’t use bluethooth for audio, so I guess that makes things easier.
I’ve definitely had some on and off audio issues, nothing crazy usually solved by unplugging and replugging in the device.
Bluetooth have been kinda crap but also HDMI audio devices have been buggy. Analog in/out (3.5mm) has always worked for me.
HDMI audio depends on a proprietary license. The Linux drivers for it are, predictably, less robust.
I guess you’ve just been lucky.
Or you’ve just been unlucky.
It’s very common to have audio issues, in fact. Pipewire is seen as a golden age by many.
Pipewire is my goat
Agreed, it was the next step from pulseaudio. To say it wasnt problematic is incorrect, as it had many problems and needed a lot of manual intervention.
Nowadays, pipewire appears alot more stable, even with the compatibility layers for when stuff uses pulseaudio.
I had a shortcut on my taskbar to terminate and reinitialize Pulse. It got used multiple times a day.
pipewire is so cool! It’s so easy to set it up to sling to snapcast!
[sobbing] I don’t know what the fuck snapcast is, I just want sound to work!
It’s a pretty easy setup for turning all of your Linux devices into speakers for one studio stream.
Set up some raspberry pis, plug them into speakers around the house, hit a button on your phone, they’re all playing synchronized musicSounds expensive.
Have you got like, an old phone or laptop? And some old PC speakers? Then you’ve got surround sound.
To be fair, a lot of bluetooth headphone problems i had on my work laptop was just microsoft teams.
My most recent project requires me to use teams again -.-
It finds new ways to loose my peripheral devices ever day and adds effects to my camera that are not even available in the menu. I’m wondering if they try to get you to install it, or hate Mac users or Firefox or whatever. I mean it has been bad for all the time I knew it, but it seems to be getting even worse.
I can’t say I’ve had a great time with audio in either personally, though it’s indeed much easier to fix audio problems in Linux. But just yesterday pipewire must have hung or crashed preventing all browser based video playback entirely, which due to the symptoms not appearing audio related was quite annoying to debug. I still have no idea what caused it in order to avoid it happening again in the future.
Yeah, but does your half-assed linux install come with the incredibly useful NoPilot? Huh?
Checkmate, linux nerds!
does your half-assed linux install come with the incredibly useful NoPilot?
Nope. If for some incredibly bonkers reason I actually wanted to use it, I’d have to actually – gasp! – go to a website and talk to it through a website interface, rather than an interface directly integrated into every goddamn app on my own computer. That’s like … two, maybe even three extra clicks!
(Seriously, though. If for some reason I wanted to talk to a chatbot, I could do that on the chatbot’s website. Why do I need it to be integrated into fucking Notepad?)
We spent a lot of money on this chatbot. You should talk to it. Yes, in Notepad as well!
Why do I need it to be integrated into fucking Notepad?
The rate at which every security practice is being torn down for the sake of clankers is giving me suicidal tendencies. Surely you will not regret giving the token-based randomness machine root access!
And don’t worry, the mega-corp that has constantly lied about things in the past promises that all the data from the integrated app that gets sent back to company HQ only gets used for training better chatbots (probably) (maybe) (possibly) (unless it’s, like really good blackmail material). And every single thing you’ve ever typed into Notepad surely isn’t just sitting there on a company server, waiting for a subpoena from an increasingly authoritarian government to gain access to…
(And, of course, that program you coded in Notepad? The fact that it was used to train Microsoft’s next chatbot, which then went on to magically write code strikingly similar to yours to be integrated into the next Microslop project without notifying or compensating you in any way … purely coincidental, of course. It’s not stealing – it’s training. Running it through a chatbot first magically removes all copyright protection from your code.)
That’s why.
Its ‘our’ pc now, not ‘your’ pc.
Allegedly, they changed that because idiots were going to their work computer and expecting “My PC” to open the contents of their home computer.
Whats nopilot 👽
It’s Microslop’s Artificial Idiocy
Oh the idiocy is very real
Ty
I imagine it’s rephrased “Copilot”.
Or outfazed copilot
Linux revoked my mic permissions in the middle of a call today, on Google Meet. Happened before on Zoom.
I have not root-caused it to see if there was flaky hardware or what.
Ok, this prompted me to root-cause the issue. A bad cable between laptop and USB dock seems most likely. Hardware issue, not Linux!
Back in 2021 I remeber I had several issues with bluethooth audio, now it just works as soon as I take my headphones out of the case (even tho KDE says Bluethooth is disabled everytime)
Strange, Bluedevil has been working consistently for a while. What Plasma version are you running?
I’m on 6.5 now.
In 2021 I was using a laptop with a different chipset, now I’m using one of those cheap USB Bluethooth dongles you find on Amazon for 5$
My
SonySennheiser Momentum 4 always say loudly “No connection” after I connect them, but they are connected. It doesn’t annoy me too much though.I use Mint btw
Sony momentum 4?
Surely you mean Sennheiser Momentum 4 or Sony WH-1000XM4?
Sennheiser of course, thx
Dell laptop at a fortune 500. They locked USB and audio down hard on these laptops. Flahsdrives don’t work unless you get an approved dongle. Wired headphones only allow either the mic or headphone output to be working, never both. So I end up using the laptop mic and headphone output.
But Bluetooth is fair game and everything works just fine there 🙃
You raise a good point and everybody rage commenting really doesn’t help - I wonder if they’re using the analog sockets or USB devices?
I mean honestly 😬 it still kinda sucks compared to Windows. Less problems on Windows vs my Linux laptop. Do they mean wired headphones? Because I use Fedora on my framework 13 and my bluetooth headphones just do not want to play sometimes. It works after some reconnecting and switching outputs. Or my bluetooth keyboard is just not connecting sometimes. And I have to “forget” it and re-pair it. Sometimes I think a lot of my colleagues or friends with Linux systems just get used to rolling with punches/issues because it feels better to be working on Linux. At least I don’t have to click away stupid full screen Microsoft Account reminders etc.
I have to “forget” it and re-pair it.
If you’re dual-booting, you need to sync the Bluetooth pairing keys between Windows and Linux.
Ha, I’m not dual booting :)
f you have wired or properly standards compliant bluetooth headphones it works fine on both.
If you have (cheapo) non-compliant stuff it’s a crapshoot on both, but there’s more likely some drivers to make up the difference on windows, whereas on linux you’re deep diving obscure crap, it can be done, but is it really worth the effort?
If it’s musical instruments, especially midi, you’re often better off on linux these days, but you might have to pay for a DAW and some commercial plugins are hit or miss.
just got a new laptop and wanted to boot into windows once so i could make sure bitlocker was off and i had to go through 15 minutes of clicking decline on upsells for 365 vs clicking on install linux mint from the live usb and being yes install
Between my Linux laptop, my window gaming computer, and my apple work laptop I never have audio issues.
