I live in NC and hate the hurricanes. Perhaps it’s just because I’m a disgruntled Blue Jackets fan, but hurricanes are one annoying ass fanbase, with a shitty owner, in a racist ass state that was the birthplace of the kkk and hasn’t changed much since then.
I knew I hate the hurricanes for good reason.
Poor guy lol.
The fact that the player names aren’t first on the list pisses me off.
What a douche move.
Cool story, bro.
So for someone who doesn’t know: is this trophy passed on every time someone wins? You don’t get to keep it and they make a new one?
Yes, it’s the same trophy, they pass it along every year. There are metal bands where they engrave the names every year. The trophy can only hold about 50 years worth of names, though. When it fills up, they replace the oldest metal band and send it to the Hockey Hall of Fame to make room for new names.
The first time I read this, my brain automatically parsed “metal bands” as musicians. And now I think Gwar should really implement this system to commemorate all of its various lineups.
Ah okay. That really puts the “mildly” in this post, I suppose. 😅
I’m not familiar with Lacrosse, is this cup “reused” every year?
Hockey, not lacrosse. And yes, it gets reused every year. Each person who won gets 24 hours with the cup to do whatever they want with it, and then it goes to the next person. The bottom part of the cup is made of a bunch of bands or rings, that get engraved with the winners every year. The whole cup can hold up to 50 years of names, and when they need more space they remove the oldest band and put it in the Hockey Hall of Fame. It looks like the owner added all his family to the cup. It’s happened before and the extra names got struck out. It’ll probably happen again this time too.
What’s wrong with just the name of the team, the year and a separate record of the stats for who played the match. Y’know, like normal trophies
In 1984, the Oilers owner Peter Pocklington added his father, Basil, to the Cup. It’s covered by a series of Xxxxx.
How did the league approve this?
This can easily buffed out.
Unfortunately if he’s given them all partial ownership they’re all entitled to be on there. I greatly dislike that sports teams are privately owned.
His youngest child is kindergarten age.
Minors legally cannot own part of a hockey team.
Minors can legally own shares of a private company.
I’m not saying THIS child does… and out of EVERYONE on the list that kid is entirely morally absolved anyways by virtue of being a little kid.
But, they can own shares.
Minors cannot sign contracts, so any ownership would be thru a trust or other legal apparatus.
They’d have to write the name of the trust on the trophy
Usually it’s under a special type of account where the parents are the legal owners until the kid turns 18.
I don’t think they have any relationship with the team. Just the guy’s wife and loin product. There are actual minority co-owners who aren’t on there.
Are we sure he didn’t gift them something like .1% of the team just for this?
Not from what I’ve read. But I’m not his accountant, so …
Only theorizing. You’re good.
Assuming he’s done this very specific thing without evidence is far more speculative.
Theorizing is synonymous with speculating in this connotation… My first statement is true: any owner gets their name on the cup. I didn’t make any claims beyond that.
But that isn’t true because they have minority co-owners who are not on the cup. Brett Jefferson, Marc Grandisson, and Bobby Farnham own 12.5% of the team but weren’t included.
I don’t care that sports teams are privately owned, I do get really annoyed that stadiums are built with public dollars.
And the profits privatized.
Just finished writing a post about this exactly. That is the problem.
Link?
Sorry, not a post. A comment elsewhere in this thread.
You can copy direct links to comments…
You can search their username too or click their profile
That, too. Easier for the person in question though, since they know what to look for.
I kinda agree. But if a city has enough money to afford a sports team, they should invest more into the local tax base.
But as far as the Stanley cup goes, billionaires aren’t beholden to the Golden rule, so tax the fuck out of them.
Absolutely tax the billionaires.
The part I hate is that a host city shouldn’t have any obligations for a privately owned team. The owners get tax breaks and other concessions for building complexes that will be completely private facilities afterwards. Owners and owner groups can easily afford to fund all of this themselves but gain favors by playing on the opportunity for the city to have a sports franchise.
While area businesses may benefit from the presence of a sports team, the general public ends up financing a good chunk with at best marginal returns.
Even worse when you got fans of the team on the council, they cant seem to comprehend that there are other hobbies or interests so paying loads to the arena for ice time for kids while saying to other groups that the commune cant afford renovations on the dance hall or swimming pool (which are also supposed to be funded from the same budget as “young activities”)
How much room is there for engraving on that thing?
They replace rings when they get full.
But each winning team typically gets 52 names to put on.
they keep adding strips to the bottom of the trophy, so the answer to your question is “as much as you need.”
Don’t they remove the strips and add blank ones? Or was that a different trophy.
Edit: it’s not even the first time it happened. According to Wikipedia:
Peter Pocklington, then-owner of the Edmonton Oilers, put his father’s name, Basil, on the Stanley Cup in 1984. Because Basil had no affiliation with the Oilers or the NHL at all, the league had his name stricken
I knew pocklington; he was an utter asshole. This tracks.
This tracks for a LOT of the hockey community in Canada. Not everyone, but a lot of them.
Growing up, hockey players were the worst to be around in school; a clique with a massive superiority complex, unfettered egos, and selfishness. 1 out of every 10 would be a good ratio to describe how many of them were worth interacting with.
