I’m sooo tired of hearing about bad companies being shitty to their consumers and then watching thousands post about how wholesome and sweet Nintendo is and sharing their new animal crossing themed butthole tattoo to honor them.
Stop paying these pricks and just pirate their stuff.
The problem is that only one person choosing to pirate the games because they think the company doesn’t deserve their money can’t offset the fanboy who buys two collection edition games just because
We have to rally around the blackest flag. It’s a numbers game.
How did you know about my nook’s cranny tattoo??
I’m tired of people bitch and complain about not being able to play old Nintendo games, and at the same time make fun of Skyrim for being purchasable on any system you want.
They don’t even lose money, they just don’t earn any.
Yup. And it wasn’t money they would have gotten anyway so big N gets mad about nothing.
As is tradition.
Because video game companies never relaunch franchises to capitalize on nostalgia. The mental gymnastics you people play to justify copyright infringement is amazing.
Nintendo isn’t making money off those games now. Might they have plans to relaunch older games on newer consoles in the future? What do you think? Crazy right.
History has shown that if you make it easy to access something, people will generally prefer to access it legally rather than using piracy, because most people are willing to pay for something if they have the option and if it’s relatively affordable. Trying to stop piracy doesn’t help sales, let alone hypothetical future sales, so trying to stop roms of older games won’t help them make more profit when they relaunch/re-release older games on newer consoles. So it’s still pointless. Not to mention that people playing those older games in the meantime keeps them in the public consciousness longer and so more people are likely to know about them, hear about them, and want to buy them when they’re available through official channels.
There was a point in time before HBO {Now,Max} where HBO was only available through a cable subscription add on. HBO shows were always the most pirated shows because of how difficult it was to watch, while avoiding spoilers. An old The Oatmeal comic sums up the experience best.
Found the bootlicker!
The mental gymnastics you people play to justify copyright infringement is amazing.
I don’t need mental gymnastics. All I need are ROMs.
Would buying used games also undermine their efforts to capitalize on relaunching a franchise?
they dont really “lose” money regardless
they just dont gain money, which they could have gained… if emulation wasn’t super fucking easy and also fuck nintendo
When Nintendo started Virtual Console, I was really impressed, because instead of fighting emulation, they embraced it and made money off of it. All of these old games were just potential profit that they were sitting on. On top of that, they even managed to get games from non-Nintendo consoles onto VC!
Then, they discontinued it, and I’m sitting here, scratching my head and trying to figure out why. Nintendo is a strange company. They have an undeniably awesome product and very talented and creative developers, but also pretty bone-headed management.
They have brilliant, and creative game designers who love their work. They also have managers and lawyers who hate their fans with the passion of 1000 supernovae, and the wrath of 3000 women besmirched.
They don’t even “lose money” in either scenario. They just don’t make new money.
Businesses consider those the same thing unfortunately :/
I’d argue they consider not making new money worse, losing money means tax write offs.
The argument is the suppression of titles is to control the brand. Its indirect nonsense.
Nintendo is the Disney of video games.
They want to take their content and squirrel it away in their vault, so for like 10 minutes you can buy the emulated recreation of some obscure title on some future platform where it’s digitally tied to the device and the online Nintendo store you bought it from, so when the console inevitably breaks or the store is shut down, you lose access.
All of this for a premium cost for a decades old game of dubious quality that only has value because of your nostalgia.
So stop emulating games so Nintendo can decide when they will gift you with the privilege of paying far too much for a game they didn’t make, which has a life expectancy, which will expire when they want it to.
Also piracy is bad! So stop it.
I literally had to look for a patched Chrono Trigger Rom with Spanish translations bcuz nor Square Enix, nor Nintendo ever released it with spanish dialogues in mind. Now my little sister is able to enjoy it, and it is always thanks to the community that Nintendo despise. So as always fuck Nintendo as a corporate and most important:
I mean lots of media has always worked that way. Build up the nostalgia to increase what people are willing to pay. Before VHS, Disney would lock up their movies and bring them out to theaters every couple of decades making way more money than if they put it on TV. It drives demand. And they think it should be their decision whether to satisfy that demand or not.
They called it the “Disney Vault”. They did the same for VHS too, they would re-release old movies onto VHS for a limited time and then it would “Go back in the Vault”. Its an annoyingly effective marketing scheme and I hate that almost all studios do this with their shows and movies now.
Same thing with DVD and Blu Ray, heck if you still buy those plastic data disks they still do it.
Yeah, just not as effective after VHS since you only have to buy it once, or just illegally copy someone else’s. I think that’s what Netflix mostly was used for in the DVD days. Rent the movie to be copied and shared.
Nintendo: “How about you don’t play those old games and buy our new games instead.”
I was told by my parents not to play with shit.
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Damn, what do we do now when we see an UnexpectedBillWurtz? Joking aside, I almost typed an r/ on reflex. It’s weird how hard it is to break some habits.
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In the future this link will open an agglomeration of all /c/UnexpectedBillWurtz on all instances
I’ll buy your new games AND play the old games! You get the exact same amount of money either way!
NINTENDO REALLY SUCKS
NO I SUCK NINTENDO
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Doesn’t lose them money, the used game woudn’t make them money anyway which is why they lobbied to try and make reselling used games require a royalty or be illegal for years before everything became digital.
As for emulation they lie and call emulation itself illegal (the copies may be but emulation itself is not) because then they can’t pull a disney and “vault” old games on their digital storefronts and make you buy it again when they decide to just up shut down the previous server when they launch the next console.
They don’t want us to own the things we pay for. They want us to rent them while not realizing it.
They don’t want us to own the things we pay for.
The real answer right there.
You do own what you paid for. You didn’t pay for accessibility on any hardware platform for the rest of eternity.
That’s functionally the same thing when what you own is digital and limited to a specific service.
You could say…
NintenDON’T wanna see you playing old stuff
Copyright in Japan seems to be even more of a nightmare as it already is in the west.
For context, Japan has no fair use clause.
Fair use is not universal in the west though. We don’t have fair use in Denmark, but we do have a similar and more limited concept.
This is why pirating games that aren’t available to be bought anymore is never wrong
big imo: pirating AAA games at all is never wrong
Aye!
OPs example also applies to games they never intend to release on PC. It’s not like I was going to buy a Switch anyway.
Only reason games don’t become public domain is because of IP license. So just in case the rights holder wants to revisit a mothballed IP decades after the last time it was relevant, the entire catalog of that IP is off limits
Yeah, say I want an old need for speed game, either buy a disk for a high price that I can’t put in my disk drive-less PC or pirate it…
Hmm I wonder which one I will choose
Agreed. Really though, the ultimate goal should be to enact legal protections for older video games, same as any other historically significant cultural artefacts.
Pirating as an alternative to paying as often as one can, even when the product is on offer by Nintendo or whoever, is usually very easy. It’s the least we can all do in terms of class struggle.
That’s why Steam’s business mindset is to get you the game as easily as possible. If it’s easier to buy than to not most people will buy it.
