• Ann Archy@lemmy.world
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      If we can’t say “retarded” then we also can’t use the word “idiot”. Nobody cares if you say idiot, therefore retarded is also ok.

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    I am so pleased i got out of IT at the peak of Windows 7. I have seen all i want to see about 10 and 11. Hard pass from me.

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    In corporate environment, add Crowdstrike, Zscaler, windows instrumentation, and then some digital experience management solution to report on why apps are so slow, battery life is still only a few hours while it heats the room while sitting ‘idle’, or trying to render a file explorer window with 20 cores and 32 GB of RAM. Did I mention there are updates and you MUST REBOOT NOW, forget that you are presenting to a client.

    Almost as offensive as Dell laptop keyboards on their corpo laptops. Ugh.

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      Sounds like your IT doesn’t know how to properly orchestrate updates.

      Best way to do it in a Windows enterprise environment that I’ve seen so far:

      • 1 Week: Install in the background silently and finish when the machine reboots.
      • After the week, 2 Days: Warn once that the machine will automatically reboot in 48 hours.
      • 12 hours before forced reboot: Pop up a warning in the corner with the countdown before reboot. Options are reboot now or warn me again in X hours. If you dismiss it without selecting, it pops up again in an hour.

      If your Windows machine hasn’t rebooted in a week and a half, of course you’re going to have performance issues. What, you expect devs to avoid memory leaks?

      That all said, the amount of Windows sysadmins who haven’t entirely given up on wrestling Microsoft’s update bullshittery is shrinking every day.

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    Don’t worry, they’ll release Windows 12 / Aion, which is basically Edge + Copilot OS. Can’t wait for that to be released.

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    No thats 45 min. 30 sec is way before you finally get the usb to boot on the 3rd time flashing it. Then you find out you need to look up the latest hacky shit needed to make an offline account

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    I have a real question here. Loops is on the fediverse. Can you not embed video from there, or is OP unwilling to do that for whatever reason?

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      Embed videos from where?

      Lemmy doesn’t support video hosting. In the past I’ve used catbox.moe but had mixed results with video not uploading easily, users not being able to view them, and it just wasn’t great. So now since Loops is on ActivityPub I’ve been using them now.

      I’m using Mlem which loads the videos automatically as part of the posts just like gifs. Just now thought to check Voyager, and it appears that it shows it as a link to be opened in the internal browser, so I’m guessing apps showing that behavior is probably why you’re asking.

      I mean if I find a better alternative I’m all for it.

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      7 hours ago

      You can crosspost, but I don’t know how well lemmy interacts with it. It has major problems interacting with peertube and mastodon.

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    Can confirm. I used Linux and Unix almost exclusively for about 20 years, and when I more recently had to use Windoze again for work, this is pretty much what happened.

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    Literally tried to install windows 11 for our office machines last week.

    • installed
    • extremely slow and laggy
    • check process manager
    • just takes 3.7GB to boot up
    • Uninstall and install win10 IoT LTSC and debloat it immediately

    unfortunately Linux isn’t yet an option because of microsoft office.

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        Is there no hiccups? Because if I want to roll it out in our organization and switch to linux, I really need it to be perfect and fool proof (people that dont know what an OS is will be using it of course)

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          I’d say it works such that any mildly technically competent person can use it.

          The problem is that I know The absolute surface level nature of most people’s technical ability.

          The dual file system nature of winboat would probably cause you issues. All you have to do is save your work to the folder that you have shared between both os’s, but equally, I know full well the majority of computer users don’t know what a file or directory structure is.

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      I don’t expect the office apps to continue supporting ltsc tbh, so hopefully it lasts long enough for you.

      Windows does aggressive caching now but will clear that if the memory is needed so I often find the in use value to not be as useful of an indicator now.

      I will say if that was a 4gb machine I don’t expect it will run 11 that well, we now will only ok 16gb computers. Not just for windows, but chrome et al all have ridiculous memory usage now.

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      I use a debloated Win11 image for the situations I can’t get around it. Still much more resource intensive than Linux, but it’s something.

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        Windows has a lot more security than Linux (which lags). Every time Windows comes out with a new technology like secure boot, Linux users will scoff and down-play it until they catch up. And this happens with more than just security.

        Also, Linux has way too many toolkits. If you want all the best apps; you need to add many whole toolkits which dramatically change the footprint. All new icons, dependencies, fonts, etc. Initial installs make a great first impression, and the rest is blamed on ‘your fault’, ‘pebkac’, ‘skill issue’. -Because it’s a religion.

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          Windows security has alwaya been laughably bad, and usually just a scam to try to make it harder for users to use other operating systems.

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          I would love it if you back your claim “windows has lot more security than linux” with facts and evidence.

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      Interestingly, the web 365 apps seem to work on Linux Mint, but I’ve not used them extensively, or on another distro. I did a migration from Win10 to LM last autumn, and I was genuinely shocked to find that web Outlook and OneDrive work on Firefox on LM. Confirmed that web Excel and Word worked enough to allow display and editing of documents - not an extensive test, but definitely worth a look. Obviously, there are still differences between the web and desktop versions, but it might even be possible to run them under Wine, but I have not tried that, and woudn’t expect it to go too well tbh.

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        The web versions aren’t really professional enough for office usage afaik (and we don’t really “buy” microsoft products. And the web version doesn’t work that way afaik)

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          We’re more than 125 000 employees globally using M$ Office 365. It’s cheaper, more secure, far superior for collaboration than the locally installed apps IMO. Works on and Linux distro with a JavaScript capable browser. Google suite is even better but the people calling the shots have a fetish for M$. Saying the web versions are not professional is odd. Maybe we just don’t share the definition of professional

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    I mean, my first 30 seconds of experiencing Windows 11 was watching a coworker wait for the file manager to open + render its toolbar, so I don’t think I could’ve really come to a different conclusion…

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        Besides solidworks, there isn’t anything I do that requires mf’ing windows. I could spin up a vm for solidworks. I hate it.

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          same. but no solidwork. Just oracle databases being migrated into MS fabric.

          fuck, we hate oracle’s frying pan, so let’s jump into the nearest (slightly cheaper) fire.