How do you live in this world - filled with wars and chaos - with no hope of redemption or things getting better, and just thing “yep, this is all there is, life is good”. As Christians, we have assurance, certainty and comfort in that Jesus is coming back to judge the world, destroy all the wicked and bring us to eternal life. Atheists don’t have that. Even worse, some even prefer to insult this God. What’s keeping me grounded in this life is the knowledge that God dictates when my life ends- not me.
I don’t know how theists do it. How do you live in this world - filled with wars and chaos - believing that an omnipotent being is not only overseeing it all, but permitting it to happen? And the same being is your only hope for redemption and getting things better! As atheists, we don’t need to believe in a god that is a juxtaposition of the creator of everything in this world including that which is wrong, and also our only hope.
Your assurance, certainty, and comfort is that the same god that created the wickedness will bring you to eternal life. Don’t want to spend eternity with such a being?
God is not the author of evil. God permits it to happen because He is patient. If God would stop permitting evil, it’ll result in wiping every human off the earth, and not giving them a chance to repent. Our days are numbered. God does deal with evil.
God is omnipotent. He is the creator of all things.
So god created evil. God also has the power to destroy evil without destroying every human - god is omnipotent.
I would be so depressed if I believed in the doomsday death cults!
You cannot destroy “evil” without destroying “good”.
Evil is defined by the absence of good.
If you got rid of the darkness you would lose all of the colors, you would lose all of the sight, because there would be nothing to see except for the light.
No, the absence of good can also be neutral.
No, you don’t need darkness to see light.
The darkness gives the light its form.
no, that’s light sources and objects.
Just out of curiosity, you mentioned “this world - filled with wars and chaos” and also your hope that things get better: do you do something to work towards things getting better or will this be handled by God?
“…assurance, certainty and comfort…”
Sorry, this is delusion.
And who said there’s no hope?
The atheists said.
John “strawman” atheist said it?
The Atheistic belief that when you die, there’s nothing. So if you suffer in this life, there’s no justice. No reprieve. No hope.
You are straw manning again. Death being the end makes zero difference as far as hope and justice go. Arguably it drives you further to accomplish those in life rather than just rolling over and waiting for some being to turn off your lights.
You will never accomplish them.
Beta Ray Bill says it best
If there is no god, then how do you define “good”
I can’t tell if this is supposed to be a shitpost, rage bait, or just indoctrinated virtue signaling. I’d make some popcorn, but it would outlast this post.
looks around at the horrors of gods creation
find comfort in the fact that he’ll be responsible for your death too
Absolutely normal, not psychotic behavior
God didn’t create evil. People did.
So your claimed God isn’t all powerful and is not the creator of the universe? Who created the evil in the first place because you claim the universe and all of its rules are built by your god, so the evil lies at his feet unless you’re claiming a more powerful creator did the evil bits.
Who does he report to?
God created everything means god created evil.
People creating evil means your all powerful god was powerless to stop evil or uncaring to stop evil which is evil in itself.
Oh He is powerful and He will stop evil.
He gave us free will. Darkness is the absence of light.
Does good create all life in your opinion?
Yes. That life has free will and is accountable for it’s actions.
God did explicitly create evil.
The fruit of the tree was the fruit of the “knowledge” of good and evil, not the “seed” of good and evil.
But he probably created evil so that there could be good, the same way he created darkness so that there could be light, the way he divided the waters from the land and the earth from the sky.
