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Like most people who aren’t up in arms about this TechnicallyTee hasn’t actually given it a seconds worth of thought. “Well I don’t play games on disc” it’s such a surface level retort. If you’re not going to spend 10 seconds actually thinking about it, why have you bothered to make a comment?
The problem is that we dont spend this time complaining about any other consumer product like games. As if you need them to eat and live.
Don’t buy Sony products. Fucking done. What is there to complain about and give free advertising labor to Sony over? Outrage is retention wearing clown makeup. They are playing you all.
Thanks to population size and people never agreeing on anything, even a common cause. Voting with your wallet doesn’t work anymore.
Though don’t get me me wrong, it should still be done especially in the light of last weeks news of sony removing digital goods. Just that the insignificant hit we can do is completely undone by the masses still buying.
I still haven’t pre-orderd any game or paid above 59,99, but those things are still getting more popular.
which masses are buying?
Here you go. Ps5 already sold 90 million units. https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Sony Or https://www.gamesmarket.global/financial-results-sonys-playstation-division-recorded-strong-growth-but-the-outlook-remains-cautious-1a5ecfa83784106c362f1205c86bc396/
So basically just sony made already record profits from game sales.
“Well I don’t have anything I think I need to hide, so privacy doesn’t matter!”
Same vibe.
This should just be about choice, people should be able to buy physical copies if they want. Some people want the ability to resell the game, others might not. Of course, Sony wants to boost their bottom line, and that’s best done through inconvenient DRM that leaves little to no recourse when things go south for the consumer.
I guess the question is why shouldn’t a business get the choice, too? I’m not sticking up for anyone here, because the solution is not to buy.
there are so many amazing free pc games with no microtransactions, how are physical releases someones only way to play games?
In this big beautiful world, physical media is the most convenient way to play your games without hassle
without hassle
Disk read error
If buying isnt owning, then piracy isnt theft
People like him are why gatekepeeping hobbies isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Once the flood of normies comes in, they outnumber the passionate ones and it all goes downhill from there.
I knew this phenomenon by the name Eternal September, though we might call them tourists or larpers today.
That said, a gently influx of new users is important for any hobby community to survive and thrive, and noobs are always slow to pick up on the conventions and norms of the group. It’s only a real problem when the group is unwelcoming to any number of noobs, or when the noobs flood in with such numbers as to overwhelm the existing group.
The story of PC gaming in a nutshell. Completely ruined by the entrance of casuals and the reaction of the industry to their arrival.
I remember handing a younger sibling my copy of Dragon Quest 9 when I was about 12-14, it was maybe the earliest memory of me truly understanding the joy of giving someone something I felt was special. I wanted them to get a bit of the magic I got from the adventures that game took me on. I would be so overjoyed when they would update me on their play through, remembering parts that stuck out to me, hearing parts they loved that I had forgotten about. Sure you can absolutely still experience that joy of giving a gift, my friend group buys steam games for each other all the time. But that was my 1 copy of the game (at the time), I remember them hesitating cause they knew how much I loved it. And I think that made the game mean more to them.
stop giving them money
Gamers need games to live!
the “i do what i want with my money” people are so annoying. i wish they would be on the suffering side for change, maybe it would teach a little solidarity for others.
i’m fine with them having no forethought or self control but the whining about the result of their own actions later annoys me
fucking horse armor all over again
them having no control or forethought makes thing worse for all of us. In my opinion, its in essence same type of behavior as throwing trash on the street.
You should be able to get video games from your local library.
Billionaires were literally put against the wall and shot, so “using your library card to play video games” should be feasible.
When were billionaires literally put against the wall and shot?
Nicholas II of Russia?
Maybe “millionaires” would have been a better choice of words, my bad
At least where I live, they actually do! They have video games that you can check out just like books/movies/cds. It was one of the ways I got to try out a ton of games growing up.
also what few people are acknowledging is what happens when the PS7 is released and womp womp it’s not backwards compatible with PS6 software? so your entire library of PS6 games will just vanish. OR you hold onto that PS6 for as long as possible but eventually Sony will shut the servers off for that hardware. OR (and what likely WILL happen) is those PS6 games you bought will be “upgraded” for the PS7 and you’ll have to buy them all over again. THIS is also likely the reason why Sony decided to stop selling first party single player titles on Steam. They’ve been planning this for a long time now.
It’s not a matter of IF you lose those games but simply WHEN.
Somebody needs to invent a way to rip your entire library on steam to portable installation cartridges so you just plun-n-play them
It shouldn’t be that hard. I may look into this.
Really it’s just install the game, copy the local files and apply the steam crack (for most games), maybe repack it into a nice packed executable with some lightweight compression of the files for easier storage.
I suppose the worst thing would be to manage the exceptions to the rule, games that use other drm, or that maybe need some tweaking for the steam crack to work,nor maybe need to create some extra folders to work. But for most simple games it should me enough.
Imagine having an entire library of modern games on cartridge. Look up what game to play, grab it from the shelf, No DRM, put it into a cartridge bay and hit a switch, and the computer copies part of it to RAM and runs it. Just like N64, but 10,000x bigger.
People do keep trying to make modern “retro style” consoles. But the problem is they always have limited processing capacity so they’re always quite niche. Also the price of having to put everything on a cartridge of some kind would probably mean you wouldn’t get indie games on the platform.
I’ve never actually tried this but presumably I can just download the games on Steam and then uninstall Steam and the game should still work right as long as they’re not even the steam folder. After all you can put games on Steam so presumably you can take them off.
A significant number of games on Steam can literally just be ctrl c ctrl v’d into another directory, snd still more or less work, or be made to work if you … configured Proton through Not-Steam,.for them.
Mostly only games on Steam that have some kind of always online DRM are going to throw a shitfit in that scenario.
People seem to forget that Steam and Source were built from the ground up to support what is I guess now the ‘old school’ way of modding a game: you just literally throw more shit into the game directory, edit what is already there, etc.
You can add /any exe/ external to Steam, to Steam, and run it via Proton. … /any exe/.
I’ve managed to get fucking Cascadeur working on Linux, via Steam/Proton, lol… there are a few games I tinker with where the model or anim ripper scripts only work on Blender 3.6 for Windows… So, download Win Blender 3.6, add to Steam/Proton, run, install Windows only plugin. Voila! Bit of jank, but it does work.
Any game that somebody has figured out how to do the equivalent of… some kind of script extender, to enable mods to do more kinds of stuff?
The way those work is they basically hijack or replace the original game exe.
Any game that has been reverse engineered to this extent, you can get to run independent of Steam.
I’ve done it with CyberPunk 77, NewVegas, etc, toying with my own mod making attempts. Its not too hard to futz with configs and launch arguments to launch straight into the main CP77 exe, just skip the launch/loader thing.
You can actually just do this kinds shit for quite a lot of games.
trevor noah???
Famous people play vidya games too!
Didn’t expect Trevor to be this based. Miss him on the daily show
Didn’t expect Trevor to be this based.
Really? Seems like what I’d expect from him.
Miss him on the daily show
Me too, but honestly I’ve grown to really like the rotating host format.
He grew up very poor. Most of what he owned was probably second hand.
In his book, he describes running an old school mp3 pirate business.
Uh, games on DVD can’t be deleted or taken away from you (though actually they could by a firmware update). Not sure what he meant by that.
They can if they code on that physical DVD requires some kind of online DRM check to be passed before it allows the rest of the data on it to be unencrypted.
A box you cannot open, with a lock you don’t control… is not very much of a treasure.
Conversely:
A very large subset of Steam Games?
I can copy and paste them outside of the Steam Directory, run them, and they will still mostly to entirely work.
I can then burn those onto a DVD or copy them to a thumb drive or sd card or whatever, and they’ll be capable of working on any compatible system.
You’re right about that. I don’t think people realise how much blu-ray players rely on a licensed firmware encoding that has an expiry date, for instance. Your un-DRMd games and movies are yours.
You perhaps need to read the post again
He’s attacking digital media, which isn’t really an issue as most of it you can keep on shelves and in boxes. Seems like it’s just online stores with licenses that are the problem.
Oh I see you’re being pedantic about the word digital
God I hate that argument ‘Your entire library can be deleted.’
Sony is deleting 551 movies people bought on PlayStation, including Terminator and Rambo
Yeah I hate that argument too, because it’s true.
i get it’s an over simplified view of how ownership and ip rights work, but like, it’s basically true from there customers perspective. has it ever happened to you?
or do you hate it because it’s obvious these corporations are going to pull the rug and idiots still buy this shit?
Why?
There’s another reason. Sometimes, the copy gets held by an individual and the company destroys it so archival would need to be brought forward by the undestroyed copy.
Also, if they’re not copyrighting it through the Library of Congress, how is pirating illegal? Doesn’t the FBI need a copy to inform “their original?”
No. Copyright doesn’t need to be registered to be valid. In the US specifically, registration only allows the copyright holder to pursue the case through the federal courts, which can award punitive damages as well as costs.
