• RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    The fascism was here all along, it just wasn’t equally distrubuted. The camps were already full, the tent cities were already growing, the war machine was already churning, the secret police were already snatching people to blacksites, the fascists were already supported and the genocide already ongoing. Trump just doesn’t bother with the mask, and liberals mistake that for a qualitative change. He says the quiet part so loud that willful ignorance becomes impossible, and you mistake that change in your awareness for a change in the real conditions. The building has been burning for a long time, he’s just the noxious smoke that wakes you up from your sleep.

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      Literally, no. Trump is a substantial change. Yes, the usa historically has had a massive amount of problems. Trump is not same old but said allowed, he’s a new level of psychotic and demented fascism. The previous stuff was what laid the foundation for a full on fascist to come to power.

      the genocide already ongoing.

      There was no genocide perpetrated by the states prior to trump in the last 20 years. Gaza, if that’s what you mean, while supported far too much by the states is done by Israel.

      The degree is different.

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        8 months ago

        The Gaza genocide has been actively going on for over 70 years my man, Octobe 7th just showed the world what a mask off Israel looked like.

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          8 months ago

          Yes. But that’s not perpetrated by the states, especially not with how many nations support Israel, so it is not correct to call it a genocide by the states

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            8 months ago

            Israel is a US millitary base in country form, all of its genocide is committed with the express approval, support, and material assistance of the US Empire.

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                8 months ago

                The tail does not wag the dog. Israel has some counter-influence, but is ultimately a puppet state for the US Empire.

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                    No, they don’t have nearly as much influence as you think. The US Empire is massive and supports Israel because of its utility in securing its interests, not because of Israeli influence.