• forkDestroyer@infosec.pub
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    1 day ago

    But how will the law be upheld if there is no one enforcing it? Clearly there are communities without the capacity to police themselves.

    • Goat@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      11 hours ago

      Well, the people dedicated to enforcing it don’t have a very good track record of making it any better. A police officer is physically not capable of preventing a murder, for example, because it is all but guaranteed to be too late by the time they arrive in response to an emergency call.

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        9 hours ago

        A police officer is physically not capable of preventing a murder

        This doesn’t make sense. They’ve prevented attempted murders. People are convicted of attempted murder and sent to jail by those enforcing the law. They’ve caught murderers and serial killers before they could kill again, and also sent them to jail.

        The system isn’t perfect and there are clear bad actors, but the absence of the system would likely be worse for society. If anything, it’s a call to make the system stronger to prevent unnecessary death and imprisonment.

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          56 minutes ago

          Except:

          • serial killers have always been a very rare phenomenon, certainly not prominent enough to justify the extent of policing seen today in most developed countries
          • catching serial killers is detective work that only involves a small subset of the police force, meaning that the aforementioned policing is not merely undue, but actually useless
          • the violent criminals who are not serial killers reoffend upwards of 50% of the time, sometimes higher in certain countries

          All of the evidence points to the conclusion that the police system, in the overwhelming majority of cases, creates a false sense of justice in which people harm others, get punished with a few years of slave labor for doing so, and the structural reasons that led them to harm others to start with remain unaddressed, leading them to resume the same type of harm but with tactical adjustments made to avoid getting caught again learned through prison socialization.

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      Oh, no darling, we only have room for infantile absolute positions here on Lemmy, so I’m afraid what you actually just said was that you’re glad the idf are committing a genocide and you think the police should shoot more black people.

      Silly you!

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        we only have room for infantile absolute positions here on Lemmy

        Let us be the change that differentiates lemmy from other massive forums. The darkness may be deep, but we do not step into it alone, comrade!