Iran has long possessed the ability to survive decapitation and respond to an existential threat by closing the strait. It’s why no US President tried it before now. Ukraine was more of a surprise than Iran, but Russia not realizing that their own neighbor wouldn’t be a pushover the second time was still a danger that they could’ve foreseen. In both cases, deterrence didn’t work because the invaders were greedy and irrationally confident.
And sincerely your “being cocky” smells like kremlin apology sauce, you sincerely don’t think Ukraine is at fault in any kind of way for the 2014 invasion or the 2022 full scale invasion?
I don’t know why you think I was saying Ukraine was at fault for once again being the target of Russian imperialism. If anything, I’m giving them more credit than you are
No you don’t, because you have no idea how much credit I give the Ukrainian people, which if you wonder is around astronomical.
You can also just accept and say “ah yeah they didn’t have formidable armies. I was thinking about how it went after the invasions.” But that’s too hard for some people I guess.
As someone pointed out, this is understandable if you’re from the USA.
Otherwise, I see it like this:
Every country has an army.
Their own, or the one of another country.
The baseline is that going to war is bad, having a defensive army is absolutely not (and will prevent deaths as russia won’t dare attack you).
Having a formidable army has clearly not deterred global superpowers from attacking you, especially if they get too cocky like in Iran and Ukraine
Neither Ukraine nor Iran had a “formidable” army when they were attacked.
Russia was supposedly the second army in the world too.
Iran has long possessed the ability to survive decapitation and respond to an existential threat by closing the strait. It’s why no US President tried it before now. Ukraine was more of a surprise than Iran, but Russia not realizing that their own neighbor wouldn’t be a pushover the second time was still a danger that they could’ve foreseen. In both cases, deterrence didn’t work because the invaders were greedy and irrationally confident.
And?
Still didn’t have “formidable” armies.
And sincerely your “being cocky” smells like kremlin apology sauce, you sincerely don’t think Ukraine is at fault in any kind of way for the 2014 invasion or the 2022 full scale invasion?
I don’t know why you think I was saying Ukraine was at fault for once again being the target of Russian imperialism. If anything, I’m giving them more credit than you are
No you don’t, because you have no idea how much credit I give the Ukrainian people, which if you wonder is around astronomical.
You can also just accept and say “ah yeah they didn’t have formidable armies. I was thinking about how it went after the invasions.” But that’s too hard for some people I guess.
Sometimes, but do you let your neighbor waltz in and subjugate you?
I have a standing subjugation appointment with my neighbor every Thursday in fact. Don’t knock it til you try it.