My wife bought new toothbrush heads on her way home from work today.

They didn’t fit. She bought the “Oral B IO” heads, but we have a “regular” Oral B toothbrush, not the Shiny Fancy IO design.

And this is after she bought replacement heads last week at another store – which turned out to be “compatible for” a different brand :(

Ugh.

  • Victor@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Never ever had a dentist recommend an electric toothbrush to me. Why is that? 🤷‍♂️

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        8 days ago

        There’s been plenty. Dentists, dental hygienists, it’s been almost 4 decades and no-one has recommended it, so I don’t think it’s that. They have, however, shown me how I should use a normal, manual toothbrush most effectively, and I’ve followed that advice to success. Haven’t had a cavity since my first cavity as a teenager, it’s been over 20 years since then.

        Are y’all based in America? I bet dentists there are paid to endorse the electric toothbrush industry there. But maybe not.

        Maybe there are scientific studies that show that electric toothbrushes are objectively better for dental and oral health? If so, I’d love to see them and maybe I’ll consider getting one.

        For now, I’m just sick of having yet another thing that has a damn battery that needs to be charged god-damnit.

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          8 days ago

          Very cool story about his you choose to code in PHP because it’s totally as good as everything else if you know what your doing 🙄

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          8 days ago

          Probably an American thing, many of the dentists I’ve had tried to sell me an electric toothbrush. I claim I already have one (which I do, I just prefer not to use it).

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            7 days ago

            they never sell, but they always reccommend it buying it online or in store, they arnt financially benfitting from it, at leas the most recent ones. dentist will know if your manual brushing isnt sufficient enough, despite you using a proper technique.

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              8 days ago

              I find I brush more thouroughly with a manual brush and spend more time than when using a powered one. I think it’s probably more a “what I’m used to” situation where the electric brushes are a bit overstimulating and I forget to keep them charged.

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          8 days ago

          Are y’all based in America? I bet dentists there are paid to endorse…

          It’s a little frightening how plausible this is. And yes, I’m American.

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            8 days ago

            😅 I know right. I don’t want to bet a fortune on it, willing to give the benefit of the doubt, but I’d still put a little bit on it. 🫣

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            7 days ago

            Excuse me? Can you elaborate on this comment? Because it sounds to me like you are actually restoring to ad hominems right now, in a calm and non-polarized discussion about toothbrushes.

            Please tell me I’ve misunderstood.

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              7 days ago

              Oh gosh no, not doing that at all. I was just suggesting that maybe you’re not getting recommended to use an electric toothbrush because you might have other teeth issues that may not be fixed by an electric toothbrush (like weak enamel or damaged teeth), or won’t benefit from it at least.

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      8 days ago

      I genuinely don’t know, because every dentist I’ve ever had has recommended electric. There are studies as well. I’m not trying to say your teeth aren’t immaculate because I don’t know you, but for the average person electric toothbrushes are better, sincerely.

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        8 days ago

        I believe you, but I’m also interested in the studies, how much worth it it actually is.

        Like, is it worth it because people in general have poor brushing technique and the electric brush “solves” this just by how it works, or is it better even with proper brushing technique with manual brush?

        Those are some of the questions I have. 😁

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            8 days ago

            From that study:

            A randomized double-blind clinical trial was conducted

            LOL! I do not think that means what they thought it means. Kinda hard to keep the participants from knowing which study group they’re in.

            Still, interesting setup. 60 dental students makes sure that the control group brushing manually is doing so with proper technique. They were getting the best-case scenario for manual brushing.

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              8 days ago

              Can it not still be double blind if the participants don’t know precisely what is being measured or studied? For example, perhaps they know they are involved in a toothbrush study, but not that one group will have different brushes, or precisely what measurements are being taken.

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                7 days ago

                No. Double blind means that both the researchers and the participants don’t know who is in which group (control group or experimental group). The idea is to avoid spoiling studies with the placebo effect.

                It’s kind of hard to avoid knowing that you’re in the control group when you’re being asked to brush with an old-fashioned toothbrush instead of an electric one.

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                  7 days ago

                  Decided to do some reading!

                  CONSORT guidelines state that these terms should no longer be used because they are ambiguous. For instance, “double-blind” may mean that the data analysts and patients were blinded; the patients and outcome assessors were blinded; or the patients and those administering the intervention were blinded. The terms also fail to convey the information that was masked and the extent of unblinding. It is not sufficient to specify the number of parties that have been blinded. To describe an experiment’s blinding, it is necessary to report who has been blinded to what information, and how well each blind succeeded.

                  So double blind doesn’t have to mean the researchers or even the participants were blinded, just that two parties were.

                  In this specific study, I think it’s that the data analysts were not aware of which groups the data came from.

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        8 days ago

        This is def the case for me. I used to bring the old fashioned toothbrushes for camping (well, for any travel). I noticed a HUGE difference when I’d get home again.

        Now I just bring the normal toothbrush. The battery lasts long enough for most trips that it’s fine.

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      7 days ago

      my most recent one did, but my dentist from another provider dint 10+years ago, i had really bad teeth because manuals just dont clean as well.