• maria [she/her]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    yesss its a weird usecase. its easy to think ur getting so much out of it while theres actually rather little to gain.

    (okay fine yes im just commenting on this post cuz its got more likes than mine… and its a screenshot! >o< grrrrr- )

    if u ask mister gpt or daddy claudius for a web search thing, you lose out on the actual sources. Which sucks cuz they are right there in the LMs context, but u dont get to see it. u dont get to see the sources.

    this requires a mockup. imma be back in a few hours or so and post a mockup on Qwen community and then link it here. So here u go: have this pointless indicator showing that im working on something, maybe:

    👩‍🍳 Cooked for 1 hour and 20 minutes

    okay i cooked. 🍳

    the post is here and if u dont care to open a link but do care to click a dropdown, here is the mockup:

    mockup i made

    mockup showing conversation where assistant highlights the source instead of unverifiably reguaritating the content

    the idea is that the LM highlights the actual sources by writing special syntax which shows up in the UI as the sources themselves. Here an example.
    The LM writes:

    Here is that part of the script:
    <show>
    <path=“res://script.gd”>
    <from_line=7>
    <to_line=7>
    </show>

    This gets parsed and shows up as this:


    Here is that part of the script:

    var whatever: String = "the content of this file is"
    

    soooo… it doesn’t regurgitate, but highlights the actual sources. The example is about code but this is easily extended to regular web search. its just text so… its the same thing.

    sigh i spend too much time on lemmy.

    EDIT: i moved the post from qwen community (which is on blahaj zone) to FOSAI which is not on blahaj zone cuz i feel this stuf doesnt belong here.

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      4 hours ago

      Love the mockup and effort :D

      if u ask mister gpt … for a web search thing … u dont get to see the sources.

      Just tried the free ChatGPT (.com) and it linked me to Carfax on a Toyota pricing question. Have also seen Claude’s web UI cite sources (as of a couple weeks ago). Maybe the latest slopmachines are citing more than when you tried?

      • maria [she/her]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        3 hours ago

        yea it puts some little “source” buttons but then u gotta find the exact text the LM mentioned.

        soooo it would be Nixe to show the exact parts of the text that matter.

        the LMs do cite, but they just link to the entire site instead of… only the exact content u care about, if that makes sense.

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          3 hours ago

          What you’re looking for, that’s one of the best uses of LLMs. No need to regurgitate anything, just be an amazing search that highlights relevant segments of original documents. Something that’s hard to even hate (“I only want to be able to find exact query match results!” is a request we don’t hear).

          Instead we’re headed for Google Zero I hear

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            3 hours ago

            fair, but I would like to see the actual source instead of getting the entire page link as a source.

            its like saying “its in this chapter” instead of pointing on the page i think. the first one is helpful but may be false, the second one is immediately verifiable and… very helpful.

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              3 hours ago

              I think we’re on the same page.

              When the tool says “it’s in this chapter”, I furthermore want it to essentially embed a screenshot of that exact reference. Then I can scroll through search results on a single page, and whatever grabs me I can open the full link.