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I don’t think so
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I don’t have a mobile device. Guess I’m not human anymore.
First time I saw that, I immediately suspected a malware attack.
If it’s not, it soon will be.
Wow. No.
Such a gem of a movie
Beware it’d be quite easy to decensor that qr from the image.
Doesn’t clicking on the headphones switch to an audio test like with regular captcha? That’s what I do and it works first time instead of getting an endless number of images when I use VPN. The words you enter don’t even have to be 100% correct.
I tried watching some yt in librewolf made me do 5 captchas an i had to switch vpn location so fuck google
Doesn’t yt-dlp still work? Could go that route, then just delete the video if you don’t want it afterwards
I tried using Konqueror once, but Cloudflare websites (like WineHQ) would verification loop me. Niche browsers are discriminated against
I have degoogled but YT is the only thing I’m stuck with. The monopoly is too much to overcome.
Freetube + Invidious
For me freetube usually only works about 30% of the time.
Depending on your configuration, your experience will differ greatly.
As mentioned in another comment I made, Freetube relies heavily on either directly connecting to YouTube’s API or proxying through an Invidious instance, perhaps try a different Invidious instance, but in my case Freetube + Invidious works 9 times out of 10 for me.
Do you have any instances you can suggest?
I can really only recommend what the Invidious developers recommend, unfortunately some instance admins have chosen to disable their public APi to prevent abuse or (in my scenario) have restricted their instance to certain geolocations.
If you have a Canadian IP I don’t mind letting people leech off of my instance, shoot me a DM and I’ll give you my domain.
I use Freetube, what does Invidious do?
I just quit watching it a few months ago. No big deal, it’s all crap and mindless shit anyways.
it’s all crap and mindless shit anyways.
If you click on mindless shit, the algorithm serves you mindless shit. I get documentaries. 🤷
I just avoid algorithms. If I want documentaries there are places for those.
Well, you made a wrong claim that I merely corrected. Watch whatever wherever you want. Doesn’t change the fact that the documentary creators I follow for the vast majority only upload to YouTube and those that also upload to Nebula offer a worse experience there.
you know who else has documentaries?
PBS.
support your local public broadcasting stations, people.
you know who else has documentaries?
PBS.
support your local public broadcasting stations, people.
And do you know which documentaries they don’t have? The ones that are uploaded by their creators only to YouTube.
I watch plenty of Arte and I pay the fee but documentaries about video game speedruns etc. simply aren’t on Arte (or PBS or Nebula). I watch those where they are: YouTube.
Or turn on adblockers and support the people you watch directly (donate, patreon, merch, etc). It takes like $2/yr to replace the ad revenue that you would’ve generated for them (something like that).
Or use the alt platforms that creators create themselves when possible.
You can’t escape youtube right now (as in there is no real alternative if you stop using it all together), but you can turn on adblockers (ublock), use 3rd party clients and give something directly to creators you watch a lot.
And you can support PBS in addition if you want.
If you’re on mobile, check out the Greyjay app. It’s promoted (sponsored?) by Louise Rossman
Is that only on android?
Apparently there was some fallout with futo and him
Not sure at all about the details, but yeah he definitely backed them. Not sure if he still does though
Creating an infrastructure that could potentially ingest terrabytes of data per second, and then processing it into multiple resolutions, is a massive ask.
Especially for a new site that might not ever get picked up by users, much less creators.
I think the only people that have a hope in hell of having a success at starting a youtube competitor are the owners of the big porn sites, since they are in a similar, if much smaller than youtube business with regards to infrastructure demands and processing needs. . So they have the institutional knowledge and infrastructural inertia to get started easier than anyone else on the planet. assuming they want to do a SFW video site, which they may not want to do, and it’d probably be burdened forever with right wing outrage due to any tenuous, distant connection to the porn sites (even if its just porn money or porn owners)
Creating an infrastructure that could potentially ingest terrabytes of data per second, and then processing it into multiple resolutions, is a massive ask.
Yeah, but that’s a bad approach.
A website that just hosts links, a torrent to video script, and a like-button that’s a magnetic link is all you need to set up a youtube competitor. The creators can host their own videos, and their fans can help them. Sure there’s a lot of quality of life stuff that integrating a torrent client and browser would help with like automatically using file selection to host only the resolutions you watch up to or automatically deleting videos after a certain time unless you’ve extra likes them, but the underlying system is functional. For steaming, do whatever peertube is doing.
Yes, every time the topic comes up, this same idea comes up of making individuals bear the financial burden of hosting and bandwidth, without an ounce of understanding how that will never, ever, create a viable youtube alternative.
And once those problems come up, someone will have the great idea of gathering people into collectives to lower the prices and increase bargaining power.
Then after that someone will have the idea of reducing costs by moving their individual videos into the same rack, so the costs of hardware, storage, maintenance go down and stability and uptime goes up.
and before long you arrive back at a youtube like platform, and you’ve just become the equivalent of techbro reinventing the concept of a train for the 380th time.
I mean, I’m not in networking so maybe you’re right and I’m totally out of touch with the basics. Downloads don’t even need to be instant. People scroll and save videos to watch later all the time. Maybe I’m ignorant, but it seems like the technology (torrent networks) already exists and this just requires slapping a pretty interface on top of it.
Honestly, it sounds more like a marketing problem than a networking problem.
Thats not a youtube alternative then. Its a torrent hub 🙄
Integrate all into one app, and it’s close enough functionally that it could compete, and that’s all you really need.
Wasn’t there some professor that started uploading actual educational non-porn lectures on pornhub a while back?
Afaik pornhub actually pays way more than YouTube. There are also lots of people uploading SFW content to the hub.
I think I know who you are talking about, I recall seeing something about her making more money posting on pornhub than youtube because of greater advertising sharing or something.
And yet we’re having shit get censored everywhere else because aDvErTiSeRs. Clearly something doesn’t add up here.
You make it sound nefarious, but its most likely just an ability to be more generous with the revenue sharing compared to something thats 300x its size.
Yeah but hosting your self isn’t that big a deal depending on your host. At least until you get into the millions of views.
We’re talking about youtube competition, self hosting isnt ever going to compete with youtube.
is a massive ask.
No, it’s not. It’s a massive request. When you punch out and leave the car lot, be sure to use regular English.
What’s “regular English”? Only words you personally know? https://www.oed.com/dictionary/ask_n1?tab=meaning_and_use
It’s a fairly common phrase. Language can change and have regional differences. This isn’t Quebec defending their weird version of French as the only “correct” way to speak.
That thar dude frum lemmy.ca, Imma laff ifn he done be Quebecois
None of these are about identifying if you’re human, they’re about identifying which human you are.
How does that work?
The QR code thing I understand, but what about the “select all the fire hydrants” captchas?
They combine your browser fingerprint (what extensions you have installed, version, etc), your IP address, and how you move your mouse, how fast you click, etc. It’s surprisingly accurate.
But isn’t that like 99% browser fingerprint and also the case with just about anything you do online, not just captchas?
Really
Not justifying this by any means but you can just click on the eye icon at the bottom to get the regular captcha.
Fröhlichen Kuchentag!
Danke, dir auch!
Vague option is vague.
I dont understand how and why is the phone involved in this check. I assume its a link to a website that authenticates you (probably google), but why not open it in the browser its alread at? Like what recaptcha was already doing for the past decade?
Im so confused
A few years ago I was given a technical deep dive into Akamai’s bot detection systems. One area they were quite focused on were bots impersonating mobile devices, and in particular mobile apps. It’s commonplace for attackers to try to mimic the behavior of mobile apps because it often provides more direct access to the data they’re looking for than trying to scrape websites.
To counter this threat Akamai developed a library for their customers to incorporate into their apps. This library collects a bunch of haptic data from the mobile device, such as the tilt sensors, accelerometers, finger taps/swipes on the screen, and other available data. It then encrypts it and sends it along to Akamai along with the data the app sends. Akamai then analyzes that haptic data and uses it as part of their bot detection analysis.
It is VERY difficult for a computer to mimic the truly random way a mobile device moves in space, or the way your fingers tap/swipe on a screen. If you were asked to draw a straight line from the upper left corner to the bottom right corner of your smartphone, not only would it not be perfectly straight but it would be quite fluid in its randomness. Writing a computer program to simulate that would be very tough. You’re far more likely to get lots of short straight lines with jagged angles than something that looks like a human drew it. And computer algorithms can quickly analyze this sort of data and return a confidence score indicating if it appears to have been created artificially or not.
So my guess is that when that QR code is scanned it will launch a Google app that will collect some similar haptic data and send it off to Google along with a unique id for that captcha. Google will then quickly analyze that haptic data to determine if you’re a bot or not.
Ohh, I’ve never thought about phone authentication being superior due the amount of sensors it has. Thanks for explaining, it makes a lot of sense (and I hate it)
I think they can use remote attestation on the mobile device to prove that it’s a physical device. They do that through Google Play Services or whatever the equivalent is on iOS. So, for instance, scanning the QR code on a custom ROM like lineage or GrapheneOS doesn’t work.
They want to force interaction with your phone so they can identify who you are.
And also to stop you from using not-approved phones and OSes
Scan to get hacked
Not to excuse Google’s practices, but you can select the eye icon to continue training an AI to detect buses and bikes.
Oh, thanks for letting me know. I missed that one, as it isn’t all that clear that’s what it does.
I also use an extension called buster that automatically solves the audio accessible captcha challenge.
Ironic
I see phishing opportunity here. Thanks Google
I’ll get hate for referencing a solution that involves AI, but this looks promising: https://github.com/Captcha-Sonic/CaptchaSonic-Extension
Lmao so the captchas don’t even do anything anyway. Except harass us.
that’s been true for years now:
captchas have been a mild inconvenience for bots for like 10 years.
they are, like so many things, pure security theater…not actual security.
They were introduced as a way to crowdsource OCR
Google would give two words, one they knew and one they didn’t
4chan screwed with them back in the day by all giving the same wrong answer on the second word so their OCR would scan wrong
This is a good use of AI.
Eye for an eye
Recaptcha users will experience some visitor losses.
