Picture of Skinner from “The Simpsons” with the linux logo on his face and the word “Pathetic” in the bottom center of the picture.
…NixOS is the new Arch Linux. Change my mind.
Hardly, NixOS documentation is trash. The Arch Wiki is essentially the platonic ideal of documentation.
Truefax
Maybe you should learn to read the manual or debug your system without hand holding 😉
The difference is I can upgrade my NixOS without breaking everything hahaha. But it has gotten a lot more popular recently, which I think is your analogy? Or because people always bring it up now lol
yea i think its the popularity spike. if only there were more docs on flakes though.
I still don’t completely get their point, TBH.
And the Nix language seems to be intentionally confusingly close to json.
The similarities are superficial at best. The only thing similar is that it uses braces for attribute sets (objects) and square brackets for lists. And I guess quotes for strings.
But otherwise it’s a full (functional) programming language, with functions, variable bindings, etc.
Flakes aren’t perfect, but they are really good for ensuring that you have completely reproducible builds since the version used for every dependency is pinned.
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control the versions of the repo and packages
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config the official repo (allow unfree packages for example) that doesn’t work unless you’re on nixos
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add packages from a git repo
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update package definitions (think
apt update)
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iirc theyre meant to improve reproducibility by using pinned versions of stuff like nixpkgs instead of inheriting from your system which could be a problem if for example someone on 23.11 sends a deriv to someone on 24.05
If only wiki was as good as Arch’s…
exactly. cant blame them tho, its unofficial.
I agree, altough I’m trying to use them here and there, i’m still very confused by it.
i actually managed to somewhat break it. But a rollback just immediately fixed it again.
It doesn’t have a wiki as good as Arch, yet
Nah, NixOS has a very deserved air of superiority. Arch just fakes its one.
with the linux logo on his face
😂 a freudian slip
Why do you include the CC link in all of your comments…?
It’s a phase
Proprietary LLMs (it’s non-commercial license)
I gotta say and it feels weird to but I’m happy Arch are spending a bit longer testing these days. When I used to run it updates just felt rushed into the repo so Arch got it first.
Getting plasma 6 a week after it drops is still “bleeding edge” when the alternative is a couple months
I too like strong hits of copium
Seriously, the learning curve of nixOS is still… exhausting. Couldn’t get it to run with plasma 6 and wayland and the documentation is so incomplete.
Edit: Typo
That’s unfortunately true. There’s a community effort to document stuff without going through the lengthy process of getting it approved by overworked maintainers: https://nixlang.wiki
Feel free to contribute your learnings there.
At least rolling back after you broke it was easy. :)
When it’s the first thing you tried after a fresh install, it’s quite frustrating.
Oh yeah, I’ve been running nix for a week, it can’t even find plz6 after I added unstable and updated. Lost a couple hours to the attempt, rollback was 30 sec tho
Are you starting fresh or did it work with another DE? Might help in tracking down the problem
Fresh install on a VM. Was a bit confused that the default was Xorg. Changing both to wayland and to Plasma 6 was too complicated for me.
Edit: Typo
With plasma 6, you need
services.xserver.displayManager.defaultSession = “plasma”;
instead of " plasmawayland", since wayland has become the default
But do I still need all that
xserver.enabled = truebusiness?
Couldn’t Arch users just install it through the Nix Package manager?
NixOS users install KDE using a NixOS config option, as there’s a lot of configuration needed to make KDE run beyond just installing the binaries.
And set up all the systemd services themselves? Sure. Have at it.
You people
Yes, we the people! Rise up, comrad!
In Russia people rise into you!
Seriously though I can always spot your comments from the link you always include.
Sassy Black Woman: What do you mean “You people”?
Can’t you just build from source of you want it? Like kde has pretty good docs for this.
But compiler scawy
xD true
It was also already in Arch’s KDE-unstable repo. I’ve been using Plasma 6 for like 3 months.
Compiling source code tends to get messy when you decide to remove it from your system. Also, you’ll have to manually update it, any package manager will be unaware of it and can’t do anything with it anyway. You’ll also be responsible for dealing with conflicts with other software or dependency issues. That’s why we have repos. Someone else did all that work already.
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Of course, but that doesn’t add it to the package repo.
LFS users are like
GTFO
fun fact: you could add the extra-testing to repo to get it the first day
Considering all of my theming and several of my apps have broken today, and that I’ve had two crashes… I’m glad they took longer.
Things are weird too under Gnome rn. Check this out:
I genuinely don’t know how to fix this one. It just started doing that one day and it doesn’t matter if i use or dash-to-dock, dash-to-panel, etc. The spacebar extension wants to plop it right before the menu. It’s mildly infuriating. I really, really wish Gnome would just let us configure the panels more similar to Plasma or Latte-Dock. I don’t want to switch to KDE Plasma because I don’t like most QT apps and honestly Breeze doesn’t look good as libadwaita. Custom themes are super inconsistent in Plasma and it drives me a bit nuts. Tho, I heard the KDE team proposed a solution that might make things better in the next couple versions.
If I ended up on Plasma I’d have to exclude the majority of KDEs and add their Gnome equivalents XD
I wonder if that would work… 🤔
Hello Jazzy, it’s nice to see you here. Hopefully your GNOME issue gets sorted quickly!
Yeah, I use Lemmy on and off, especially since I deleted my Reddit. I hope the problem just goes away since there was nothing I did that I recall which would have caused it. Perhaps a bug report is in order. If it doesn’t go away is a week or so I might put in some effort to migrate to KDE Plasma, but I would rather not.
Also I subbed to your taur community!
@onlinepersona@programming.dev not really about this post, but i see that you have a license link in all your comments. Just curious, do you copy-paste that every time or do you have some automated setup?
I do copy paste it. KDE has a tool called
klipperthat allows to have a clipboard history, so hitting Super+V brings up a dropdown and I can select it. The effort is therefore minimal.Consider using the KDE keyboard shortcut tools to set up a permanent paste keybind instead of using the history.
For example, I have a keybind that sends a known mouse movement input, which I use to set that known mouse input to always correspond to ten centimeters of on-screen movement.
Using a keybind would remove the need to ever select the right item from the history, and reduce the clutter in it for copy-pasting other things.
Oh hey, I thanks for the hint. I hadn’t thought of that!
Looks like there was a bug in KDE5 (KDE6 is on another PC) and I had to follow instructions on this stackoverflow.
They removed legacy font based DPI scaling. I hate it. Nothing looks right 😭
There used to be an option in plasmasettings/appearance/fonts called DPI. It was basically the same as the scaling in display and monitor, but with a different underlying implementation which seems to result in less random empty space.
Could you explain what that is?
Plasma used to have 2 ways of dealing with pixil density settings and they removed my favorite one. It’s been deprecated for ages so I knew it was coming but it still hurt
How long until “works on my machine” becomes “works on my config”
