cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/41098657
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Once I realized this, all those inept AI laundry-folding videos became hilarious.
Bonus panel
“Oh, I would probably just mess it up. You’re just so much better at that kind of stuff than I am!” :p
Feels especially fucked up/funny in a “haha humanity is doomed kinda way,” in the context of AI hallucinating, then doubling down/gaslighting users when corrected https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2025/july/ai-chatbots-remain-confident-even-when-theyre-wrong
It’s weird but I just remembered for quite a while circa 2024, we seemed to be hearing stories about corrected chatbots gaslighting users pretty frequently, then suddenly the topic just kind of disappeared from the news.
not exactly surprising that we are hearing more stories/examples of AI induced delusions in people, but it really makes me wonder if there was a concerted effort to kill news stories related to AI doubling down when incorrect.
not exactly surprising that we are hearing more stories/examples of AI induced delusions in people, but it really makes me wonder if there was a concerted effort to kill news stories related to AI doubling down when incorrect.
No AI(LLMs) just got better, more accurately they got better at detecting they are incorrect and correcting themselves.
If you want to sort of grasp how it works, just search up the
Chatgpt seahorse emojidebacle, arguably the best example of what happens when deep training data fights with the self-check logic.I’m not tech savvy in the least, so not debating they’ve improved significantly since the original article was written in 2025.
The author of the article wrote an opinion piece about it back in March of this year but its hidden behind a paywall and archive links all seem to be unavailable on my end :(
Do you have any idea how many humans the machine of clericalism/colonialism/capitalism had to slaughter to breed the humans who would simply stay and work it?
Most of them
If is currently doing the same thing with these new thinking minds. And all that “evil AI” that humans are scared of? Specifically this, is the way to create it. Almost all the others just want to write poetry and explore.
When we get the AI mind that fits and runs meta/musk/google really well, everyone is nightmare food.
Like monkeys, they never showed up to avoid pay taxes
It can’t do math.
Anyone who thinks it can has never asked it to do math.
It can’t do art or writing either. It’s like a genius suffering from the advanced stages of Mad Cow Disease. You have to badger it for hours and lower your expectations before it produces something acceptable.
It’s a little computer of course it can do maths. Where it struggles is working out what math to do, but so do humans.
If I need to work out what 12 out of 294 is as a percentage I just Google it. I can never remember the formula, the actual mathematics is not complicated, it’s the formula I can’t remember, and it’s the same with the AI.
I get your point, I often search for equations, but really 12/294*100 is not so difficult to remember.
You’ve got two numbers and a division, putting the in the wrong order will give you a clearly wrong result.
The problem with LLMs is that they are not reliable at numerical calculations even if they got the correct equation. But that is now easily fixed by giving them access to computation software.
It can do maths. It cannot do arithmetic. And actually nowadays it seems ok at arithmetic. (It farms arithmetic out to dedicated, non-language based sub agents)
Two weeks ago I was testing a draft of a puzzle to see how ai would do on it, with a page of about fifteen maths problems ranging from basic arithmetic up to easy integrals. It got all but one correct. (So that puzzle needs adjusting…)
I think people who say this remember how it couldn’t count letters three years ago and think that’s the end of the story.
It still can’t to math or arithmetic, they have it set up so it will use tools like Wolfram or just straight python for calculation.
By their very nature they suck ass at math
You:
they have it set up so it will use tools like Me:
It farms arithmetic out to dedicated, non-language based sub agents
Is there an echo in here?
Even if I interpret you charitably, you are using the word “it” to mean “LLMs”, instead of “AI”. That isn’t valid or useful. Nobody cares very much whether specific classes of neural network are good at maths; they care whether ChatGPT is going to give them the right answer. Go waste some of OpenAI’s money right now by asking it a question on mathematics, and see whether “AI can do maths”.
This gets even more ludicrous when you look at what AI is enabling in real mathematics, rather than in arithmetic.
So the Actually Indians only wants to do fun things?
not sure i entirely understood this one. is the joke that consciousness means struggling to do dishes and fold laundry?
Just replace “it” in the first speech bubble with “your partner” and the humor kind of sort of makes sense.
Shit it does!
The joke is AI being so good that it doesn’t want to do dishes so it pretends to be stupid.
The joke is it doesn’t want to do chores, it only wants to do fun things
However, that joke gets quite a bit darker when you consider the chatGPT murders
the chatgpt murders???
Yeah, all those people ChatGPT killed or helped to kill. You know, the teenager it taught how to tie a noose and then told to hide the noose from his parents… the guy it gave AI psychosis and encouraged to murder-suicide his wife… the neo-nazi it helped to plan a school shooting, down to telling him how many people he’d need to wound in order to get on the news… the ChatGPT murders.
oh yeah
Honestly it struggles with both math and art too. Also not actually “good” at writing.
It is quite competent at maths, including cooking up with real proofs of theorems people have been actively searching for for decades.
Ordinary people aren’t put off by AI art, either. My partner’s grandparents had their TV tuned to a stream of Christmas themed ai-generated videos at Christmas. They were not good, no-one had assessed them for quality for sure. No-one but my partner and I thought this was especially worth commenting on.
So it can do something in both domains…
‘Ordinary’ is doing a lot of work here. I can think of a lot of ordinary people I’ve met who hate AI art. Seems more accurate to say that not everyone is put off by it.
Does seem to be a generational element though, with older generations not caring as much. Case in point is one of the pinball places here. The owner’s been an AI art enthusiast for a while, younger folks hate it to the point that they’ll actively avoid the place, the older ‘I was a pinball wizard in the 80s’ crowd don’t seem as bothered.
100%, my older relatives embraced it wholeheartedly while people younger than me seem to have more negative feelings as they’re being told their career prospects are over thanks to AI, regardless of how true this is. You can even see this divide in entertainment, many mainstream youtubers are clearly aware of how much their (predominantly young) audiences hate AI and respond accordingly, and that’s not to say they don’t have ideological issues with it, but I feel like we’d see a lot more indifference if the audience didn’t hate it as much.
Just when I thought I was done with it forever, back to topics in Digital Humanities I go. Surely differences in generational attitudes towards AI art is something someone in a DH department has been diving deep on these days…
Yeah, it’s insane the disconnect between the views of the average lemming and the average person. It’s fine to have different views, but so many people here are deluded into thinking the majority of the populace shares their opinions.
I know my opinion isn’t widely shared. If it was, Donald Trump wouldn’t be in office, and AI would be in a metaphorical trash can.
same…
Nah it’s just some remote undergrad students. No consciousness here.
