How could the internet possibly be any more censored? What is the benefit of age verification? Back in the 90s & 00s we had infinite websites for anybody who could make them about anything they could imagine and now all we have is Facebook and Instagram and youtube. How could they possibly censor the internet anymore than it already is? In fact they don’t even let us use the internet anymore, everything is a data-harvesting app now.
When are we going to overthrow these Israeli backed pedophile politicians worldwide?
WTF? They ALL know that not a single citizen in any country, anywhere in the world wants this, and yet they are all forcing it to happen.
We may hav to kill every politician, and burn down every government to make things normal in this world again.
Government doesn’t exist to fulfill the wishes of individuals. Its goal is securing the collective national well-being of the country as a whole - something no given group of individuals can do. And when there’s a threat to country’s survival (which is probably the upcoming World War Three in this case), the collective interest comes to oppose the individual freedom because suddenly everyone becomes very dependant on one another.
That being said, I don’t support those measures. What I’m saying is the problem is deeper than bad government.
They get into politics because they are obsessed with control.
We probably need a system were politicians are not actually in control. Then they might be some who doesn’t get into it just because they want to mandate other people what they can or cannot do.
At this point, selecting random people off the street would result in a healthier democracy. Politicians have room to be dumb and evil, because they inherited money and social connections. A rando would have to be actually skilled if they want to obtain such things.
Introducing Athenian democracy: Place your name on a paper slip. Place that slip in a big bag. If your name gets pulled, congrats: You are now a politician for an allotted time. Also works with marble slips for extra flair.
they get into politics because they are obsessed with money. the elites are the ones paying for control.
So, the number of global conflicts have increased, the climate change bill is coming due, etc. So, naturally, politicians’ priority is to protect children… from internet, not the above shit. No wonder, we are such rational creatures.
Bullshit, NONE of this has anything to do with children, and we ALL know it, so stop repeating it as if it’s true.
This is about surveilling EVERYBODY, and connecting their online activity with their exact name. They want to remove anonymity from everybody.
The argument is that the lifetime of damage caused by surrendering your anonymity on the Internet, won’t be as bad as kids learning what human genitalia looks like. Because hoping your children never learn about sex is MAHA.
Imagine how much easier the population will be to control once they are no longer informed of the above issues. That’s the end goal
it’s perfectly rational once you stop believing this has anything to do with children, that’s the irrational part.
This is happening in to many countries for it to just be coincidence. Who is pushing it, why, and how do we get rid of them?
I think the reason is the upcoming world war. When you want to make people fight, you need to restrict their freedom
Meta is pushing it but in the U.S. so is billionaire Michael Bloomberg.
Probably the WEF or another of those huge capitalist organisations you hear recurring in tinfoil hat conspiracies.
A group of tech lords, in alliance with national security types, along with reactionary protect the kids tools.
The same people that were pushing chatcontrol. I asked the same thing and someone linked a long article from Balkan Insights that went into it, I can’t find the article myself. I would like to reread it as well.
Also, Ashton Kutchner, the actor, is spearheading a lot of this with some front group of protecting kids, bankrolled by tech. For your pleasure is a short clip about Ashton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNlY9ZqwmBI
It’s Meta.
us big tech and the israel lobby. the palantir nazi i forgot his name has said it openly. they want to target every single dissident in the world.
the root cause is fascism, and you fight fascism with communism. more specifically though, you might have luck finding and joining your local group fighting against flock cameras or something.
Peter Theil is Palantir, and he holds Vance’s leash. He LITERALLY owns Vance. If Vance becomes president, Theil is in charge.
alex karp is the one i’ve seen say it, but thiel is hardly any different.
Vance won’t remain in charge even if he inherits it. He’s an unlikeable douchebag that can’t play a crowd, that’s why he was chosen by the paranoid president, because he wouldn’t be used to supplant him so easy.
Rubio will crush Vance in the primary. Neither one has any charisma, but at least Rubio has some measure of serious reputation behind him, while Vance is just a clown. He tries to cover it, and act like a real person, but he’s so obviously a manufactured phony.
He was chosen because Theil literally walked into Maralago with Vance, and had a private meeting with Trump, and when it was over, Vance was the VP choice.
Of course, Theil and Trump know how the game is played at that level, so something of value changed hands, even if we’ll never know what it was, although Theil has donated a LOT of money to MAGA.
Yeah but prez would have had a lot of powerful people pushing their tools onto him for vp, he chose vance because both thiel, but also because vance was an unlikeable bitch. He wouldn’t have been chosen if not for both reasons.
Vance will lose in a primary.
Sure, it’s a classic Cult of Personality, so you can’t have a strong #2. That’s why he likes to play Vance and Rubio against each other. So nobody, including them or us, knows who his favorite boy is.
the palantir nazi
Peter Theil?
TBH I think there is not one reason that explains everything.
A lot of it is normal 5-eyes shit. A LOT of it, really. Power for powers sake.
But some is also well meant, from clueless politicians. They think… kids are being harmed online. Something must be done! This is something! Therefore this must be done!
They do not understand how tech works. They do not understand the negative impacts.
Some is also terror. Maybe it is little less toxic in Canada (maybe? I hope??) but here in the US many pols are afraid of attack ads. If they don’t vote for the most strict measures to shelter kids, it’ll be all “My opponent voted to give axe murders access to your child on the internet!” Pure emotional appeal and reductionism.
I’m the first to admit that we have bad social problems with kids and tech. I’m the first to admit there are real harms. But these measures are NOT gonna make them better. Worse, maybe. Not better. Also opens the door to authoritarian abuse. Again, I feel Canada is doing better than we are down here. But don’t count your chickens! It’s a never ending fight. We can never rest on our laurels.
I refuse to accept that they don’t know the negative effects of what they’re doing. That’s exactly why they’re doing it. Those are the intended effects
Well, I agree that is true a LOT of the time. I’m just skeptical of reductive explanations for complex issues. There are too many pols, in too many countries, over too many decades, in too many wildly diff pol parties, and even a lot of NON-pols like parent groups, for a single explanation to feel likely.
So I agree with you… to a point. I just don’t wanna be too black and white. We can fight it better if we try to understand what drives different groups toward the same goal.
Can you explain why so many politicians, in many countries, over many decades, in many wildly different political parties are all converging together towards a common goal?
Capitalism’s inevitable decay into fascism
I heard Facebook was funding this in the US. Not sure if they’re responsible for it elsewhere too. It’s basically Five Eyes countries doing this, so you can bet it’s to do with their surveillance efforts. How do we stop it? First step is not to comply. Do not complete any age verification. If you are absolutely forced to, at least lodge complaints about it. If you are still required to, try to avoid giving any data, e.g. use a pre-recorded video of someone else or a videogame character to pass the age check. Second step is to use and support alternative platforms that avoid such measures.
Meta is funding age verification efforts, not social media bans. Those do two different things. Meta doesn’t want to prevent young people from accessing social media, they just want cover for when they get sued for allowing minors to access certain things, so age verification laws pass the buck to the government.
I’m convinced social media bans are primarily driven by the Zionist lobby, as well as others who want to see access to information limited (the rich and powerful writ large, as they have much harder time controlling social media than they do traditional media). An entire generation across the globe despises Israel as they watched a genocide live-streamed to them via social media. So they want to cut off the youth’s access to information to prevent that from ever happening again.
It’s more than 5 eyes countries, it’s all of europe too. France already did one, the rest are trying to follow suit. Look at the chatcontrol bullshit, that trojan horse was rejected by the populations for the umpteenth time so they redesigned it as a trojan sheep of age controls and bringing it behind the walls of liberal democracy.
Maybe it’s time to de-digitize and go back outdoors and read paper books.
My life would not be worse without car videos.
Definitely. It would make life better in so many ways if everyone did this.
I heard Facebook was funding this in the US.
Whether true or not IDK, but it would not surprise me. At all! Big tech LOVES expensive and difficult regulations. That’s b/c they have deep pockets. Small competitors don’t. Big Tech can spin up huge compliance teams. And legions of engineers. That cements their monopoly. It squeezes out alternatives. It can squeeze out OSS done by volunteers! Who ofc cannot afford big dollar lawyers and compliance teams.
Meta makes more money eeach year than the GDP of Morocco! And it’s only 1/3 lap behind like New Zealand or Hungary. Smaller competitors do not have bloody sovereign nation levels of revenue.
That’s the most important step, do not comply. Do not verify your age.
Windscribe has a VPN where you can pay $3 USD for unlimited traffic to 2 countries of your choice. Make them any country not doing this garbage.
Remember when we scoffed at South Korea for implementing an online license? Where here is ours. And I’m tired of pretending it isn’t.
