This post is amusing and funny, but personally I love systemd and I was also very fond of PulseAudio that brought massive improvements at the time.
Lennart Poettering is absolutely a hero of Linux and Open Source, and helping Linux as a full blown high quality OS get to where it is today. Stronger and better than ever!!! Contrary to other major operating systems that suffer from serious Enshittification.
However some still prefer System V init, and I think Gentoo still uses that as default, I suppose because they find it better (easier to use) for tinkerers that micro-control everything.
I’d wager most folks aren’t even sure why systemd was “controversial” and don’t remember a time before it, but are instead just jumping on systemd implementing age as a field.
A lot of the controversy against systemd was pure bullshit.
but are instead just jumping on systemd implementing age as a field.
My guess is you are right, but age verification is not an idea of systemd, implementing it is an attempt at making it possible to fulfill a legal requirement by some countries. It’s stupid, but stupid is now planned to be legally required in some countries.
This is probably because it’s still hard to get to work without handcrafting for a particular system, IMO a very telling difference between the old init designs contrary to systemd that handles parallel startups like a champ.
In my experience, booting using single threaded inits (at least in their early stages) actually speeds up the process. The overhead from multithreaded startup on something as simple as an init system can hurt startup performance, especially on older CPUs.
SystemD itself was fine. Not great but better than what we had and I was happy with what it did.
But then it started to sprawl and take over things it had no business doing.
At this point I am no longer using the Linux kernel, I’m using the SystemD kernel, and as soon as Poettering feels like it he can simply sell the rights to SystemD to a big corpo like Microsoft once everything fully depends on it.
This post is amusing and funny, but personally I love systemd and I was also very fond of PulseAudio that brought massive improvements at the time.
Lennart Poettering is absolutely a hero of Linux and Open Source, and helping Linux as a full blown high quality OS get to where it is today. Stronger and better than ever!!! Contrary to other major operating systems that suffer from serious Enshittification.
For 5 years; maybe. Before, during, and since, sysV is still the most popular.
And, as dictionaries, politics and Windows will tell you, what is popular is not always best.
Typical Systemd guy only knowing about SysV.
WTF? I also mentioned upstart, and I call them init systems after the original init?!
Can you even read?
I zoomed too fast, my bad.
OK at least you admit the mistake. 👍
I’d wager most folks aren’t even sure why systemd was “controversial” and don’t remember a time before it, but are instead just jumping on systemd implementing age as a field.
A lot of the controversy against systemd was pure bullshit.
My guess is you are right, but age verification is not an idea of systemd, implementing it is an attempt at making it possible to fulfill a legal requirement by some countries. It’s stupid, but stupid is now planned to be legally required in some countries.
Yep, turns out technology enthusiasts who have a vested interest in an operating system are an opinionated bunch
Ive been riding SystemD for its faults since the beginning. The age verification was just one more on the pile.
Gentoo offers systemd and OpenRC, not SysV
OK thanks apparently OpenRC is a further development of Sysvinit, having many similarities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenRC
This is probably because it’s still hard to get to work without handcrafting for a particular system, IMO a very telling difference between the old init designs contrary to systemd that handles parallel startups like a champ.
In my experience, booting using single threaded inits (at least in their early stages) actually speeds up the process. The overhead from multithreaded startup on something as simple as an init system can hurt startup performance, especially on older CPUs.
SystemD itself was fine. Not great but better than what we had and I was happy with what it did.
But then it started to sprawl and take over things it had no business doing.
At this point I am no longer using the Linux kernel, I’m using the SystemD kernel, and as soon as Poettering feels like it he can simply sell the rights to SystemD to a big corpo like Microsoft once everything fully depends on it.