Note: This setup is both for my android and pc Edit: For those recommending paid services and selfhosting, I don’t have the money nor resources for either. Also it seams some people are confusing my android setup with my PC setup so I’ll write it down. Android: Brave(movies) + Ironfox, Search: Brave + DDG, VPN: Proton ( not always on), GPay = Cash, Auth= Aegis Auth, Pass: KeepassDX, PC: Firefox= Librewolf, VPN = No VPN (VERY slow internet), Search: Searxng + DDG, Pass: KeepassXC,
Jumping on the bandwagon here.

I didn’t know proton had contacts
Don’t use proton. Ceo is maga, and they are funsing french far right YouTubers.
Worse stuff like them shutting off their transparency should be more relevant than random US politics. The company isnt even murrikkkan
I don’t care where the company is from. If they support fascism and oligarchies, and the far right, they shall not have my business.
Being in Europe is positive in that maga cant legislate them into obedience. But if they’re willingly maga, then its irrelevant.
Close to what I normally use. I prefer CoMaps instead of Organic, Mullvad VPN instead of Proton & Artix instead of Arch.
Why Artix instead of the real Arch btw?
Artix doesn’t use systemd, iirc
dont use brave
Can you tell me why? I found out ddg was just repackage bing results so I’ve been trying brave for now.
Here’s a good summary of some of the shady practices that they’ve done by way of @cannedtuna@lemmy.world. It’s a summary of this article: https://thelibre.news/no-really-dont-use-brave/
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- Brendan Eich donated to anti-LGBT political organizations, politicians, and initiatives such as CA Prop 8 which banned same-sex marriages.
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- Brave promised to replace ads with privacy friendly ads that would actually pay publishers and even users with a volatile cryptocurrency while keeping a cut for themselves. This never actually came to life and was criticized as “blatantly illegal”.
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- Brave collected donations for popular content creators without actually involving or seeking consent from said creators. In short they accepted donations in crypto for creators, but would only pay out if it reached a minimum value of $100. When called out, Brave said refunds were impossible.
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2020 — Brave injects referral links when visiting crypto wallets
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- Brave injected their own referral links for services such as Binance without informing users or asking permission.
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- Brave turned their home screen image rotator into a place to serve ads, many of which were suspicious or crypto related.
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- Brave added a Tor feature which exposed users DNS requests
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- Brave refuses to disclose their crawler bot to websites since many websites want to block Brave Search. Brave will only chose not to crawl a website if it also blocks Google’s crawler.
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2024 - So-called “privacy browser” deprecated advanced fingerprinting protection
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- Brave removed a the Strict, Block Fingerprinting privacy feature from their browser.
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- Brave paid for targeted ads for users searching for Firefox in the Play Store and ran a campaign to “Forget the Fox”. When called out on this the VP publicly denied it and claimed it was photo-shopped.
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- The VP of Brave, Luke Mulks, frequently posts about all things crypto, from NFTs to FTX, and uses AI-gen images to promote them. He also frequently re-tweets right-wing activists.
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- Brendan Eich’s feed also frequently contains right-wing content and Republican propaganda despite his claims to be “independent”.
I jumped onboard in the beginning (2016?) when they would show you “tailored” ads in exchange for their crypto. I made about $30 or so before I got bored of the endless crypto scam ads, despite having that category disabled.
Then came the referral link scandal, and I went back to FF until I found Librewolf.
2026 - “pay $60 to REMOVE our bloat features”
Oh? I haven’t used their browser since ~2018, good to know that I continue to have made the right decision. I now use librewolf on my desktop and IronFox on my phone
It includes a lot of crypto bullshit, and I believe the founder is a right wing weirdo, but don’t quote me on that.
To also point out the good stuff: their browser has some pretty good anti-fingerprinting and privacy measures build in.
Thoughts on Vivaldi?
Still a proprietary black box you shouldn’t trust and chromium based so you reinforce the chromium monopoly
Agreed, but occasionally I have to use a site that doesn’t work properly on Firefox-based browsers. I mostly use Cromite to deal with that, but want a backup in case Cromite dies like its predecessor Bromite did.
have you tried to fake user-agent with Firefox? Most shitty sites I encountered which pull that off just do it for no reason whatsoever. They work perfectly fine in Firefox disguised as Chrome.
Firefox is my daily drive and I use Ungoogled Chromium for the rare times Firefox doesn’t work
If Firefox doesn’t work I just click away
Ty - I’ll give UC a try.
Why is vivaldi helping a chromium monopoly?
I understand it is based on chrome tech, and I guess that means it can use chrome extensions maybe? But how does it help chrome if people use it?
With the market share of Chrome and Chrome-derived browsers Google basically single-handedly decides how the web works. They decide to implement some functionality, everybody needs to do the same, every other browser “vendor” has to implement it as well now. The consortium deciding about it theoretically is a fig leaf at that point.
It uses Google’s browser engine called Chromium, which Chrome is based on. A lot of websites made to just function well on Chromium and maybe Safari
A lot of websites are made to just function well on Chromium and maybe Safari
Isn’t that more on the site creators? I have a handful of sites and web apps I don’t have a choice to simply avoid because of job-related requirements. I’ve tried a bunch of other approaches, but keeping a Chromium browser installed has, so far, been the least painful way to get through my normal work days.
Just use Firefox with uBlock Origin and PrivacyBadger.
uBlock and Privacy Badger should not be used together.
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Firefox needs to add tab groups on mobile first
Arch BTW… 😎
For DNS I use Pi-hole with Unbound which is used to contact the DNS root servers directly and recursively find IP-addresses. The first lookup becomes a little bit slower than through say Google but the IP is then cached locally and then it actually becomes faster. This is also more private since it doesn’t require a third-party DNS resolver.
Would switch Organic Maps to its fork CoMaps. (See: this open letter)
And I would never recommend Brave as the first choice; it’s run by a shady corporation and reinforces Chromium’s hegemony.
I think it’d also be reasonable to add ProtonMail to email and Mullvad to VPN since you can have multiple.
How about OsmAnd? Is that still a decent project without world domination plans? I actually have CoMaps as well, but have sort of stuck to using OsmAnd.
Yeah, OsmAnd is really good; it’s what I use as my daily driver. CoMaps/Organic to me feel too limited, but some people may like that.
(I use Vespucci for editing on Android.)
Its installed in my android head unit in my car, and it just works, and there’s a lot (and I mean a lot) of stuff it can do, so I really enjoy it as my daily driver (ha! Get it?) in my car.
Excellent. Ty for the open letter too. I hadn’t gotten around to understanding why there was a fallout, but now I know.
Except OsmAnd hiding functionality behind a cloud with paywall.
Try the OsmAnd open-source version, which has all the OsmAnd+ features unlocked for free: https://f-droid.org/packages/net.osmand.plus/
So this version gets all the paid cloud features, too?
I’m not sure if I know all of the paid cloud features in the current version (and I don’t really want to download it). You can download unlimited maps, which made me switch back in the days.
I think OsmAnd is great, but I personally prefer the cleaner feel of CoMaps. Just preference.
Something I’d suggest if OsmAnd feels too cluttered for you is to change the settings; OsmAnd lets you change a lot, but one of the ones I do is to change “Map Style” to Osm-Carto.
Carto, for context, is the vector map that you’d find by going to the OSM website. Much cleaner color scheme, imo.
My problem with OsmAnd is that it’s so very slow. Like, you zoom in and it takes seconds to display the map.
“Takes seconds” seems like a strange experience. I remember OsmAnd years ago performed like that for me – clearly, painfully loading in the individual tiles. But nowdays, it smoothly transitions between LoD and has no problem smoothly scrubbing over e.g. a major city.
I’m using offline vector maps, for context.
Edit: Trying online tiles again, I’m assuming your problem can be resolved by switching to offline. You can have the offline data update automatically such that you don’t have to worry about it. CoMaps and Organic only use offline maps, which is why they’re similarly snappy to offline OsmAnd.
This is under Configure Map > Map Source, and you only need to download for the region (usually e.g. a province) that you’re using.
Sadly that’s not it, I was using offline maps.
I’m not entirely sure what’s the exact issue, but it only really occurs when trying to change LoD quickly. E.g. clicking on an inter-city bus route and zooming out to see it in its entirety or zooming back in. From 10 km to 500 m can take 3-4 seconds which is enough to feel sluggish if you’re doing it often.
Probably not the most popular use case but it can get frustrating after a while nonetheless
Not everyone uses a powerful smartphone.
«Works for me» is seldom a good advice. OsmAnd is perfect on my Google Pixel 4a (2020), but can’t run decently on my father’s Sony Xperia L3 (2019).«Works for me» is seldom a good advice.
That wasn’t the advice; the advice was “try offline tiles and see if that helps.” In their case, it didn’t, but it’s just covering arguably the most likely potential cause. The fact it wasn’t their problem doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth asking.
Tried it out, but since I was so used to the standard OsmAnd style it just felt wrong some way.
It really like how OsmAnd allows for so much customization e.g. in map styles
open source software ≠ privacy
though it is preferable. 3rd party verification of closed source can be accepted in some cases.
What privacy concerns are there with using your ISP DNS? (honest question, not judging)
dns requests flowing through your ISP means they know where you (want to) go and 3rd parties can potentially determine identity based on certain aspects (date time of request, how many, etc) can matter to law enforcement, surveillance/state efforts, hackers and beyond) because ISP may not govern well or, hell, wven sell those requests or just 3rs party manages it without your knowledge etc )
it’s better to have a known good dns provider that can offer a little trust but realistically nothing is 100%…
Your ISP can see what websites you visit. But even if you change DNS server it can still see that if you don’t use either a VPN or DoH/DoT.
So it’s a good idea to use DoH or DoT. It’s an improvement but it’s far from perfect because the DNS server you’ll pick will see what site you visit, you have to trust them. And your ISP still has other ways to see which site you visit.
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Yes, that’s why I ended with:
And your ISP still has other ways to see which site you visit.
Even with secure DNS they can still see the domain name with the SNI, which is probably more reliable than an IP address. Last I checked very few websites used ECH. I would still argue that it’s better to have encrypted DNS requests than non-encrypted ones.
Depends where you are, and what laws your ISP is required to follow with regards to blocking/tracking. Personally I like Quad9.
In my country they implemented national wide surveillance in the network infrastructure and they keep track of everything Edit: that’s why internet is very slow
ISPs not only have a monopoly on connectivity and bandwidth prices - which they severely abuse by the way, considering the actual operational costs - but they also have everything to gain on analyzing your traffic, DNS queries being one of them. They already have a bunch of personally identifiable information (PII) on you (full name, date of birth, banking information and, in some countries, even social security number). Linking that PII to your DNS requests (read: what websites you visit) and selling that to data brokers is a pretty low effort sweet deal. Long are the days gone when ISPs only provided Internet service.
Texts on the topic:
- https://mullvad.net/en/help/all-about-dns-servers-and-privacy
- https://labs.ripe.net/author/babak_farrokhi/is-your-isp-hijacking-your-dns-traffic/
- https://www.howtogeek.com/why-dns-betrays-your-privacy-and-how-dnscrypt-stops-it/
Videos on the topic:
Another thread with commenters suffering from Brave Derangement Syndrome.
Your usage of derangement syndrome is a perfect analogy to how it’s used with Trump. People within the cult can’t see a reason people would dislike something/someone so it has to be a “syndrome”, it’s the only thing that makes sense if you’re unwilling to challenge your beliefs.
I host nextcloud and Immich on an old laptop to replace google drive and photos respectively. Very nice, but nextcloud syncing with android is annoying. Looking for alternatives there. Self hosted is a requirement.
Hosting nextcloud also lets me sync my calendar and contacts completely on my own hardware too. I use davx5 to sync with the Fossify calendar app on my phone because I like it better than the nextcloud app.
What is the issue with syncing with nextcloud? What kind of files?
Agreed, the syncing issue is what turned me off Nextcloud eventually. Now I have Proton Drive which also stalls and skips file synchronization. The only service that I feel did sync well (better than Google Drive) was MEGA which was super clean, but that was years ago so it might not be true anymore.
I’m currently trying out OpenCloud (I think a fork of OwnCloud, where Nextcloud was forked from). It’s working fine on PC where I had syncing issues with Nexcloud as well. I also host a syncthing server for the few things I really want to have in sync for all my devices (mostly my Obsidian Vault). It’s been really reliable, especially compared to other solutions I tried out
I use LibreOffice BTW
It is getting to that point tbh. If you work with people who have to use office suites often, there is a growing presence of the LibreOffice guy.
If you are on Arch, then I recommend to self host SearxNG meta search engine. There is an AUR package that builds from source and makes it easy to install and update. So if you are on Archlinux and value privacy a lot, then there is no excuse to not use this: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/searxng-git and https://docs.searxng.org/
# Archlinux, AUR # Build and install from source: yay searxng-git # Configure the search engine (shouldn't need to): sudoedit /etc/searxng/settings.yml # Start server when needed: systemctl start searxng.service # Or automatically start the server whenever you login: systemctl enable searxng.serviceSo do you just leave you computer on all the time or do you only self host when you turn it on for personal use.
At the moment it is just for my personal use on my own single computer. It is local only and I cannot access it from local network either.
My plan is to figure out how to set it up securely for access on other devices in the house. But for that I would need a dedicated little server computer that runs 24/7. Maybe an used laptop, maybe a Raspberry Pi, but right now I can’t afford it. I have a VERY old laptop and old Raspberry Pi 3b. I’m not sure if they are capable enough for this task. I have no plans to do a host for the internet.
Just noting you can have searxng on rhel and mint as well, I know those from experience.
Oh sure, I wasn’t implying its Archlinux only or anything like that. There are plenty ways to install SearxNG on other distributions, including using Docker in example. I just found the installation and setup in Archlinux thanks to the AUR package extremely easy, as it is not very different from installing any other package.
I don’t trust any listical with brave browser in it claiming it’s for privacy.
Arch Linux -> Tailscale -> Jellyfin.
What’s up with Tutamail? I’ve been looking at switching my email over to something better, and I’ve been hearing Proton for a long time, but I don’t know enough to sway one way or the other.
Also, how hard is it to self host email?
Self-hosting email sucks. Setting up an email server is the easy part, and you’d be able to receive email alright. Sending is a different can of worms and not a fun dinner. Because other email providers will not trust your server and tend to send your messages straight to spam.
I haven’t used Tuta, but it looks alright. I’ve got Proton which works very well for email and VPN, but it is a bit expensive to be honest. But I like ending my address with @pm.me
Haven’t dived that deep yet, but who knows. Maybe I’ll get there eventually. I’ve heard good things about this book: https://www.tiltedwindmillpress.com/product/ryoms/
You also don’t need to do everything all at once. You can start by getting your own domain and configuring your mail service of choice to handle it. Then whenever you want to move to a different mail service or run your own, you maintain control over your addresses and just need to update your DNS.
Edit: Oh, completely forgot to talk about Proton/Tuta. I set up my stuff on Proton back in the day and recently set up Tuta for my partner. I might get around to swapping to Tuta for my stuff as well, I just haven’t bothered to yet.

















