and what if any do you miss from windows?

  • folekaule@lemmy.world
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    13 minutes ago

    I can’t think of a single thing I miss. I use Windows for work and it’s a relief every evening when I can switch to my Linux desktop.

    Linux Cons:

    • there is always some minor thing that doesn’t work quite right, or it takes a lot of searching to find a fix. However this is true on Windows too
    • on a fast moving distro things can randomly break here and there, but usually are fixed fast
    • some games and apps won’t work. Usually when they’re trying to do something invasive. Be prepared to find an alternative (or dual boot)
    • some hardware doesn’t work because the vendor doesn’t provide drivers and no open source version exists. If they are actively blocking foss versions, they’re a good candidate for the never buy list
    • no Copilot (/s)
    • if you want things to “just work” and you don’t care about personalizing anything and you don’t care about your privacy, you may happier on Windows or Mac because you can just take it to a shop and have them fix it. There are just more resources for an OS that commands 80% of the desktop market

    Linux Pros:

    • my computer is mine and I can control everything
    • I can customize things much more than on Windows
    • I can upgrade when I’m ready and opt out of any shenanigans
    • Everything I care about works. I switched to open source for photo editing. There was a learning curve, though
    • software development, even with Microsoft tools (!), is just much nicer on Linux. You don’t need WSL when it’s already your OS

    Workarounds:

    • I choose to not buy unsupported hardware
    • I choose to not buy unsupported software and games
    • I put vendors hostile to freedom on my never buy list (e.g. Adobe)
    • I have access to a Windows PC if I need it. But I have not needed it in the last year or so I’ve been full time on Linux

    Not saying going full time Linux was necessarily easy (I gave up Adobe Lightroom and I can’t play some AAA games) but I have no regrets. It was actually easier than I had feared.

    It’s like diet and exercise: it’s not easy to change but you’ll feel a lot better in the end.

  • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Pro: You own your computer.

    Con: You own your computer (and you have to work on maintaining it).

    I’m mostly joking. Generally if you have a problem with Linux, you can get help on it. The myth that there are more Windows users, so therefore it’s easier to get help with Windows is problematic for a few reasons. One, the number of Windows users who are actually passionate about it are comparable to the number of passionate Linux users, or Mac users. I’m not sure which one leads the others in power users who are happy to help, but I feel like it’s Linux. Nobody has Linux because of the computer they bought (or, almost nobody). Windows and Mac have a lot of users who just use the computer they bought with the software that came with it. Virtually no one has Linux who didn’t choose it, and they chose it for reason that are important to them, and it’s in their best interests to help you learn it, too.

    The other myth is the command line. Windows, Mac, and Linux all have a command line/terminal. It’s not needed on any of them, but on all of them, there are a couple things you can do that are not easy to do in the GUI.

    Honestly if you have Windows, get a live distro and run it. You can run it inside Windows. The performance won’t be the same as running it on bare metal, but you can see how it handles your hardware. For most distros you shouldn’t have a problem.

    (Disclosure: I’m a happy Mac user. I’ve used Linux off and on (mostly off though) for over 20 years. My favourites have been Red Hat (when it was a home OS; it’s called Fedora now) and Ubuntu. I prefer the GNOME interface. I’m comfortable with the command line. I understand that macOS is UNIX, and I also understand that it’s not and why it’s not.)

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    Linux’s only objective is to get better.

    Any commercial OS has the sole objective to make money for its owner.

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      53 minutes ago

      Which in turn means it has to eventually get worse. It’s the natural progression of capitalist ideals.

      There’s only so much value you can squeeze out of a product before you have to start reducing quality to make more gains.

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    Pros:

    • Easy to manage firewall rules (UFW)
    • Different distros based on need
    • in conjunction with the above, it’s also easier to customize the os (I would say this is depending on the distro) to do exactly what you need and nothing else.
    • Terminal usage to handle certain tasks can be much quicker than using the GUI under some circumstances.
    • Choice of DE (KDE, Gnome, etc)
    • Way less resource intensive with a stock build than a generic windows build (sans maybe an enterprise build but even then those still use more resources on average than most distros).

    Cons:

    • Distro hopping for new users can be confusing due to different package managers and just overall differences in them. Pick one and stick with it for a little bit to get a feel for how Linux works (unless it is just absolutely not your thing) so you aren’t getting confused/overwhelmed by how different they can be.
    • Certain tasks can be a bit more complicated for new users (mounting drives on boot, file shares over network)
    • Solidworks. I know there is freecad and blender and openscad and onshape, and they do work. But swapping over is painful. Onshape is super similar and browser based but you’re also limited by their terms for free use.
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    Pros:

    • I have the source. I don’t have to wait for fixes or features. I just do it myself and send a patch or PR upstream.
    • I can run it on just about anything, and well.
    • Sane defaults and handling of user permissions - by design
    • Modern filesystems that don’t silently rot your data
    • Full control
    • No forced updates
    • No telemetry

    Cons:

    • Not a priority for pro applications
    • Not fully POSIX compliant

    I haven’t used windows in almost 30 years, but… I probably missed some games at first that DOSBox couldn’t run well (yet). Not a problem any more.

  • Fedora 44 Cinnamon user.

    My last “computer” was an Android tablet with a physical keyboard and trackball so I can’t really answer your second question.

    As for the pros. Free, runs great on old used hardware, updates don’t really bugger the system, super easy on system resources, my used computer has 8 gb of ddr4 and that is plenty for my usage.

    Con. Doesn’t play all video formats. When I first switched to Fedora 42 I tried for a week to get videos to play. Every “tutorial” and forum gave the same ineffective answer. Now I just copy any video to my old Android tablet and watch them that way. Please, no advise on this, I’m happy with my solution, thanks.

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      2 hours ago

      Just missing codecs right? OOTB OpenSUSE is like that, but you switch repos to one that has the non free codecs etc

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    Nothing missing from windows. From Mac though? Being able to text from your Mac, easily airdrop, easier network shares, support for Lightroom, fusion 360, most cad and photo software really.

    But it’s an immediate replacement for windows. Zero reason not to switch. Even if you love games that don’t work on Linux, you should switch just to force those makers to support Linux

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    Pro: It does what I need an OS to do. Mostly stays our of my way.
    Con: It’s a pain in the ass when it occasionally decides to get in my way.

    What do I miss from Windows: Nothing. I’ve been using Linux since 1997. Back then Win95 was absolute shitshow. Idk what it is now. I don’t much care.

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    Pros :

    • Reliable, I have nothing to fix and no unusual behaviors or settings on Cachyos. If I set something up the setting won’t change on its own.
    • Private, no telemetry. No NVIDIA service sending all the apps I launch to HQ.
    • No forced software. I can choose to remove most components I dont like and replace them.
    • Gaming works as well or better than Windows once its setup.
    • I can revert to a previous image of my system right at boot. Very reassuring to know it’s easy to revert to a previous state/version of my system.
    • More lightweight system, I use way less RAM on idle than on Windows. That’s more RAM to use for actual useful stuff like gaming.
    • it’s free. Doesn’t require an account to use.
    • it’s secure. Much less risk running a linux system than windows. You are a harder target and also a less attractive one for hackers.

    Cons :

    • I can’t play games with kernel level anticheats.
    • I sometimes have to spend 10mn when installing a new game to set it up on proton.
    • You are still expected by most people to handle their proprietary files coming from Microslop. You have to be able to sign PDF files and return office files.
    • HDR support is not really good for games and it often is difficult to have working.

    Overall, having switched 4 months ago, I have no regrets and honestly it was a great upgrade for me. Beside the money lost on a game like BF6 I’m very happy to be on linux.

    I was really annoyed by my W10 setup anyway. I constantly had settings that would change on their own. I often had bad days where you feel the system struggling even though nothing changed. It was very frustrating. Linux solved that. I dont have bad days on my system. It runs exactly as I left it when it was shutdown. And this expected stability is very comfortable for users.

    Highly recommend the switch to cachyos for all Windows gamers. And even for non-gamers it’s a very functional and reliable operating system.

    • voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Is cachyos much better than garuda? I’ve been on garuda for a few years now and dont know much about cachyos other than its another arch based distro.

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          Actually depending on tasks it can be up to a 25℅ boost. Though in gaming tasks it tends to be a 2 to 5% boost. Which while more moderate can still be felt. Where catchy excels is it’s CPU optimization. So if you’re CPU bottlenecked it can make a big difference. That said garuda and endeavor both give you the option of installing a cachy patched kernel.

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        I never tried Garuda so I can’t help with the comparison.

        Is Garuda debian based ?

        Cachyos is the first time I touched an Arch based distro and I was very impressed by how stable and “fresh” it feels. I guess Arch deserves its good reputation.

        I have been updating my cachyos like two times each week which is a quite high update rate and the only problem I had was this :

        Steam stored his cache by default on my home partition and filled the disk completely. I then updated with pacman without noticing I had no space left and the process failed. The system wouldn’t boot which was scary. I took a bit of time to think about it and remembered that I can revert the system with BTRFS snapshot. So I checked the cachyos wiki on how to revert and in 2mn i was back to the exact state before my failed update. It broke once because of Steam and the system was very easy to fix.

        A beginners could learn to use snapshots easily in the GUI for it and I think would succeed in restoring the system. Would the same be true if a Windows didn’t boot ? Honestly I don’t think so.

        I even was able to setup in the GUI for how many snapshots I want to keep so i constantly have around 30 snaps ready to recover my system up to a month and a half ago.

  • GustavoM@lemmy.world
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    Pros: Customization, privacy, ease of use (And yes, it’s much easier to use than Windows when you are fully aware of its “ins and outs”.)

    Cons: None.

    Then again, if I -REALLY- had to use Windows, I’d use it on another PC (preferably w/o internet) while leaving my “main” PC for Linux only. Scary, I know.

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    Pro: I can update when I want. Updates don’t have me guessing every single time if they’re going to completely override my configurations. The updates themselves aren’t bug riddled AI garbage installing yet another electron app. My Linux mint uses about half the RAM a Windows 11 install used on the exact same PC and doesn’t constantly thrash my SSD or spike my CPU. Every issue I’ve run into has just been a lack of knowledge on my part, and easily fixed by guides online. Last time I had to help someone with an issue on their Windows 11 it took more time sifting through guides trying to find where the hell they’d moved settings and failed to document something than I ever want to spend again.

    Cons: I genuinely have not found one yet personally. I’m not saying Linux is perfect, just I’ve had zero real issues myself.

  • pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip
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    Pros - My hardware is mine. If I don’t like something that shipped with Debian or Mint, I can just remove it. If I’m on Mint but miss something from Debian, there’s usually a one line command that will add it back.

    Also, most versions of Desktop Linux are free. I don’t mind paying for software, but keeping track of Windows license keys was a pain in the ass.

    Cons - I mean, it’s still a computer. Computers are dumb. Installing it - while way simpler than a Windows upgrade, still took me a few minutes of clicking “next”.

    I intend for my next computer to ship with Linux Mint pre-installed, because I’m that lazy.

    What do I miss from Windows?

    Nothing.

    I used to dual boot Windows for gaming, but now there’s only 5 games in my Steam Library that don’t run on Linux.

    Five.

    I gave up five games, to kick Windows out of my life.

    I would tell you which ones, but I haven’t actually run across which three. I only know it’s five because I can subtract the numbers before anand after I click the “only show me Linux compatible games” filter button.

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    I think the only thing anyone ever misses is the driver and software support. Love wine but some programs will never have full capabilities.