Spent lots of time with Gnome 2.
In Dec 2024 I got hooked in Hyprland on Arch and have a cool rice for it. But I’ve tried KDE on desktop now with Parrot OS since Plasma is popular. Still need to find some cool dot files or rice it myself.
I’ve noticed SwayFX getting lots of love lately. I might use that as an option with Plasma but am afraid of conflicts. I’m excited about it since Linux has now officially replaced windows on my gaming rig, which is the very last MS computer left in my house.


Still on Openbox/Xorg. Inevitable is the switch to wayland, what is the closest equivalent?
edit: for me, OB’s greates strength is having tons of options for manual tiling while still being a stacking window manager. Plus tons of keyboard shortcuts and inbuilt menus.
I hear that river wants to try to sort of become the Xorg of wayland (in the sense of providing a simpler interface to build a window manager upon, without needing the whole compositor)
No, I do want a compositor that would be like Openbox, on wayland.
I think what he’s saying is that there might be more options coming for stacking compositors (if they haven’t been created already) since the new River framework makes it easier to create them
https://github.com/labwc/labwc
I’m aware of labwc.
I wonder if people have experience with it, and would like to share it.
It uses OB’s theme spec and all other familiar config files afaics, that’s good. Almost (? again, asking for experience) a drop-in replacement.
I seem to remember there were one or two other candidates though.
I’ve been using openbox for more than a decade and a half and 3 years ago I moved to wayland with labwc. The theme is compatible and the config syntax similar but you can’t just copy the openbox config and load it into labwc. The experience is VERY similar to openbox…but better. I’m not going back.
Thanks, sounds good. No paper cuts at all? (Not that openbox doesn’t have any)
Sure; I’m not opposed to a migration process, it’s just that I have so much muscle memory with all my key- and mousebinds. But would you like to expand on this a little? I guess at the very least
<openbox_config xmlns="http://openbox.org/3.4/rc">will be replaced with
<labwc_config xmlns="http://labwc.org/x.x/rc">or some such?
A little from my config:
<?xml version="1.0"?> ... <core> <decoration>server</decoration> <gap>0</gap> <adaptiveSync>no</adaptiveSync> <reuseOutputMode>no</reuseOutputMode> <primarySelection>no</primarySelection> <allowTearing>no</allowTearing> <autoEnableOutputs>yes</autoEnableOutputs> <xwaylandPersistence>no</xwaylandPersistence> </core> ... <keybind key="A-Tab"><action name="NextWindow" /></keybind> ... <mousebind button="Right" action="Drag"><action name="Resize" /></mousebind> ... <windowRule identifier="xfce4-appfinder" matchOnce="false" fixedPosition="yes" serverDecoration="no"> <skipTaskbar>yes</skipTaskbar> <skipWindowSwitcher>yes</skipWindowSwitcher> <ignoreConfigureRequest>yes</ignoreConfigureRequest> <fixedPosition>yes</fixedPosition> <action name="ToggleAlwaysOnTop"/> <action name="MoveToEdge" direction="up" snapwindows="false" /> <action name="MoveToEdge" direction="right" snapwindows="false" /> </windowRule>…etc etc.
Thanks again. Yeah, that looks quite a bit different. But in a sensible way.