i’m sure someone, somewhere, has used this argument in a demeaning way to trans people, but i can’t imagine that’s common among actual allies. it feels more like something that the right would use as a purity argument among itself, except they lack the logical rigor required to do so
and then it depicts the guy as actually being affected by that argument, as if he wouldn’t just go “yeah but it’s gender affirming care for my real gender that i really am” 💀
i poked around the author’s bsky a bit, and i think she must have had some shithead say something like this directly to her, because there’s a comment asking about using the same argument in a different context (“i was arguing that, since i have such easy access to testosterone, trans men / my trans son should” https://bsky.app/profile/warstrike.bsky.social/post/3mnaipvuvp22y) and she was like, yeah that seems fine
so there is some nuance here that i think is absolutely not being portrayed by the comic, namely that it’s implied this is a common part of this broader argument, rather than a specific, shittier flavor of it, where instead of trying to get people to empathize with trans people, we’re using trans people to imply certain cis people are shitty (e.g. “he’s not a real man because he got <gender-affirming procedure>”, with the implication that gender-afffirming procedures aren’t necessary for cis people of some arbitrary caliber)
i think this may also miss the usually implied “for cis people” that’s included with this kind of dunking? ofc, it’s logically consistent to interpret that as being demeaning towards trans people, but i think it’s mostly an acknowledgement that, ofc trans people (on average) need it more, we went through the wrong puberty (without addressing the nuances of how much an individual may or may not want to transition medically)
there are just different implications for cis people getting gender affirming care than trans people. it’s different if you’re unhappy about what you got as the result of the correct puberty (ignoring for a moment that there are some trans people who can/did go through the correct puberty and may still need gender affirming care)
ofc, we should be striving for a society where anyone can get the gender affirming care they need to feel comfortable in their body. there’s just a lot of nuance about this situation that i think is both not covered by the comic, and even more that is possibly missed entirely
I literally just got into a mini argument on lemmy last week with someone that was being shitty to an office bigot exactly like this. Saying things like “how is your transition going” to try to get at them.
Not saying its a majority but people are definitely doing unnecessary mental gymnastics to justify this type of bullying because it is against their enemy
this comic is wild
i’m sure someone, somewhere, has used this argument in a demeaning way to trans people, but i can’t imagine that’s common among actual allies. it feels more like something that the right would use as a purity argument among itself, except they lack the logical rigor required to do so
and then it depicts the guy as actually being affected by that argument, as if he wouldn’t just go “yeah but it’s gender affirming care for my real gender that i really am” 💀
i poked around the author’s bsky a bit, and i think she must have had some shithead say something like this directly to her, because there’s a comment asking about using the same argument in a different context (“i was arguing that, since i have such easy access to testosterone, trans men / my trans son should” https://bsky.app/profile/warstrike.bsky.social/post/3mnaipvuvp22y) and she was like, yeah that seems fine
so there is some nuance here that i think is absolutely not being portrayed by the comic, namely that it’s implied this is a common part of this broader argument, rather than a specific, shittier flavor of it, where instead of trying to get people to empathize with trans people, we’re using trans people to imply certain cis people are shitty (e.g. “he’s not a real man because he got <gender-affirming procedure>”, with the implication that gender-afffirming procedures aren’t necessary for cis people of some arbitrary caliber)
i think this may also miss the usually implied “for cis people” that’s included with this kind of dunking? ofc, it’s logically consistent to interpret that as being demeaning towards trans people, but i think it’s mostly an acknowledgement that, ofc trans people (on average) need it more, we went through the wrong puberty (without addressing the nuances of how much an individual may or may not want to transition medically)
there are just different implications for cis people getting gender affirming care than trans people. it’s different if you’re unhappy about what you got as the result of the correct puberty (ignoring for a moment that there are some trans people who can/did go through the correct puberty and may still need gender affirming care)
ofc, we should be striving for a society where anyone can get the gender affirming care they need to feel comfortable in their body. there’s just a lot of nuance about this situation that i think is both not covered by the comic, and even more that is possibly missed entirely
I literally just got into a mini argument on lemmy last week with someone that was being shitty to an office bigot exactly like this. Saying things like “how is your transition going” to try to get at them.
Not saying its a majority but people are definitely doing unnecessary mental gymnastics to justify this type of bullying because it is against their enemy