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  • ghost_laptop@lemmy.mlM
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    7 hours ago

    Just a reminder tho… the United States,has attacked El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d’Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004), Georgia/Djibouti/Kenya/Ethiopia/Yemen/Eritrea War on Terror (2004), Pakistan drone attacks (2004 to present), Somalia (2007), South Ossetia/Georgia (2008), Syria (2008), Yemen (2009 and 2015), Haiti (2010), Libya (2011), Syria (2011), Ukraine (2014), Iraq (2015), etc. etc. etc. etc. Now Venezuela and iran…

    So, who is the real danger to world peace?

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    Technically any democratic government should be better than authoritarian.

    The only disadvantage is if your population is morons you get orange man.

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      People aren’t ‘morons’ by default, they are made to appear so by generations of indoctrination and oppression. People can think, and they have the capacity to choose their government.

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        Yeah like honoring flag in schools etc.

        Defounding education.

        And america is pseudo democracy, if you can only choose from 2 options, illusion of choice. And there is no need to make propopulation decisions because your opponent will gather hate in their cadency so you will be chosen in next elections.

        The worst are brainwashed morons which worship politician

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      China is democratic, and all states are inherently authoritarian in that they all are tools of domination by the ruling class. China’s ruling class is the proletariat.

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            The Chinese political system is considered authoritarian.[[1][2][3][4][5][6]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_China#cite_note-:22-6) There are no freely elected national leaders, political opposition is suppressed, all organized religious activity is controlled by the CCP, dissent is not permitted, and civil rights are curtailed.[[7][8]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_China#cite_note-:27-8) Limited direct elections have occurred only at the local level, not the national level, with all candidate nominations controlled by the CCP.[1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_China#cite_note-:31-14)[excessive citations]^ The nature of the elections is highly constrained by the CCP’s monopoly on power, censorship, and party control over elections.[[15][16]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_China#cite_note-:35-16) By law, all elections at all levels must adhere to the leadership of the CCP.[[17]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_China#cite_note-:63-17) All government bodies and state-owned enterprises have internal CCP committees that lead the decision-making in these institutions. China’s two special administrative regions (SARs), Hong Kong and Macau, are governed under the “one country, two systems” principle.


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              Yes I understand Wikipedia has a yellow peril, red scare twist on it but none of what they say when you remove the racism and McCarthyism actually disqualifies China from being a democracy.

              Democracy is not defined by how many parties exist. It means that political authority comes from the people and that the population participates in governance. Different societies organize that participation differently. Liberal systems center competitive parties and election campaigns. China organizes participation through elections at the grassroots level combined with consultation and representation throughout the policy process.

              In China we call this whole-process people’s democracy. The idea is that democracy should not exist only on election day every few years. It should exist through the entire political process: discussion, drafting policy, consultation with social groups, implementation, and feedback.

              Direct elections reach the township and county levels where voters choose deputies to local people’s congresses. These grassroots deputies constitute the overwhelming majority of all deputies nationwide. Advancement to higher levels requires proven service at lower rungs, ensuring every national deputy has worked up from local material conditions and remains accountable to the masses below.

              Grassroots legislative liaison stations and community consultation channels, such as the 12345 hotline direct to the local government, ensure mass input shapes policy at every stage, making democracy a daily practice not a periodic (meaningless) ritual. Whole-process people’s democracy embeds consultation and pilot programs into governance: policies are tested locally, refined through mass feedback, then scaled nationally. This grounds decisions in what we want and need.

              All 55 ethnic minorities hold guaranteed representation in the NPC. Farmers and labourers comprise roughly 15% of deputies while professionals and technical personnel make up the remainder.

              China also has a consultative system through the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference. Multiple legally recognized parties and mass organizations participate there along with the Communist Party. Trade unions, ethnic organizations, professional associations, business groups, and other social bodies submit proposals and participate in consultation before policy decisions are finalized. It is not an adversarial party competition model, but it is still a structured form of representation.

              Even besides all that if you just look at what the Chinese government does as opposed to those owned by capital. Mass poverty alleviation, anticorruption at all levels, massive investment in socially profitable but monetarily unprofitable public services, deflating the housing bubble. These are not the actions of a government only looking out for a select few.

              And also the CPC has over 100million members since 2024 that is 1 in 14 people who are party members not to mind those who aren’t but are active in consulting through the CPPCC.

              To put it very briefly: Democracy means rule by the people, and in China it is very certainly the people that rule. There’s a reason that even Harvard puts the approval rating of the government around 95%., it’s because the government serves the people.

              From the latest Perceptions of Democracy index, from NIRA Data:

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          Yes, China is ruled by the proletariat and has a consultative democracy, with both direct and indirect elections.

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              And in America you get to choose between AIPAC approved candidates. I’m not aware of democracy in this purely ideologically perfect form every existing outside the thoughts of some Greek philosophers

              The who you get to choose between has always been curated whether by a vanguard party or established parties or foreign intelligence. Point to a time in history with democracy and I’m sure there’s a way to show how it wasn’t truly democracy by your purist standards

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              Sure? That doesn’t mean it isn’t democratic, the will of the majority is represented. The CPC is extremely popular in China because they are an extremely competent organization.

              China is a socialist country governed by a communist party. Public ownership is the principle aspect of its economy, and the working classes control the state. The Chinese political system is based on whole-process people’s democracy, a form of consultative democracy. The local government is directly elected, and then these governments elect people to higher rungs, meaning any candidate at the top level must have worked their way up from the bottom and directly proved themselves. Moreover, the economy in the PRC is socialist, with public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy. Combining this consultative, ground-up democracy with top-down economic planning is the key to China’s success.

              I highly recommend Roland Boer’s Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance. Socialist democracy has been imperfect, but has gone through a number of changes and adaptations over the years as we’ve learned more from testing theory to practice. Boer goes over the history behind socialist democracy in this textbook.