• jacksilver@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    11 hours ago

    In what way is Ukraine a battering ram? All the issues you point to are internal issues in Ukraine (even if we were to believe that they are NATO backed). I never heard a Ukranian backed assault on Russia (until after Russia invaded). Even if we believe everything you claim none of that indicates a planned attack on Russia.

    Best case you’re arguing that Russia is making a pre-emptive strike because they believe there is some external threat from Ukraine in the future, but that seems kinda weak.

    • subversive_dev@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      9 hours ago

      I think maybe you’re not understanding that US literally did a color revolution in order to put the neo-Nazis in power because they wanted the war to happen.

      If you want evidence that this callous logic was being employed in the west, this think tank paper from 2019 lays it out quite clearly. They correctly predict that the interventions they advocate for will lead to war and Ukraine will be destroyed. Apparently they don’t see this as a problem, as long as Russia is “extended”.

      It’s all just psychopathic scheming to control natural resources. Ukraine (Russia), Iran, Venezuela, Iraq, Libya are all just manifestations of the violence they will engage in to maintain global hegemony

    • GuyIncognito@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      10 hours ago

      Ukraine put it in their post-Maidan constitution that they had to join NATO. Sure, Ukraine’s civil war was its own internal affair, but the main issue at play was hostility to Russia and wanting to join the West. Why would Russia see this as anything but a threat? More NATO bases, another NATO member, and this one adjacent to the Russian heartland. A lot of people scoffed about US bases surrounding Iran, but it turns out that those were there for a reason - attacking Iran! In retrospect, Russia’s position looks more rational rather than less.