Totally, we can see socialist systems that work well alongside the free market, most of Scandinavia, Australia, Czech Republic, etc
We’ve got the answers, we should just aspire to implement similar policies that actually work
The problem is that the specific argument you point to is often brought up either in complete ignorance or straight up bad faith. Communism bad, look at (insert one of like, 5 events here)
But let’s ignore the untold millions slaughtered, enslaved, or maimed in the name of profit.
The problem is that the specific argument you point to is often brought up either in complete ignorance or straight up bad faith. Communism bad, look at (insert one of like, 5 events here)
But let’s ignore the untold millions slaughtered, enslaved, or maimed in the name of profit.
The problem with your argument is that it can be applied to anything.
“This specific argument is often brought up either in complete ignorance or straight up bad faith. Nazism bad, look at (insert one of like, 5 events here)”
I could even sprinkle that turd with: “It wasn’t Real National Socialsm! Actual National Socialsm has never been tried!”
I think it just depends on which estimates you go off of. No one knows exactly how many people died in each, and while 10x is definitely pushing it, 5x would be more reasonable.
While they were one of the most prominently targeted, Jewish people were not the only victims the Holocaust. Somewhere between 11-20 million people in total were murdered by the Nazis.
??? 15-55 million people starved in the famine. You’re the one that said Chinese specifically, despite that being the total human death toll estimate.
You were comparing the total of one to a subset of another, that’s the only reason I commented on it. What exactly are you trying to dispute with your last comment?
For sure, it’s not really apples to apples. I just don’t really know what you mean by “Holocaust revisionism” in this context. Typically that refers to people claiming the numbers of deaths in the Holocaust are inflated, no? Which in this particular conversation does not seem to be the case, at least to me.
Ah, hardcore commies. The level of density is incredible.
Their mentality is like:
Mao starved 10x the holocaust number of people but it’s okay, because it was unintentional!
Totally, we can see socialist systems that work well alongside the free market, most of Scandinavia, Australia, Czech Republic, etc We’ve got the answers, we should just aspire to implement similar policies that actually work
The problem is that the specific argument you point to is often brought up either in complete ignorance or straight up bad faith. Communism bad, look at (insert one of like, 5 events here)
But let’s ignore the untold millions slaughtered, enslaved, or maimed in the name of profit.
The problem with your argument is that it can be applied to anything.
“This specific argument is often brought up either in complete ignorance or straight up bad faith. Nazism bad, look at (insert one of like, 5 events here)”
I could even sprinkle that turd with: “It wasn’t Real National Socialsm! Actual National Socialsm has never been tried!”
Holocaust revisionism. typical.
I think it just depends on which estimates you go off of. No one knows exactly how many people died in each, and while 10x is definitely pushing it, 5x would be more reasonable.
Wikipedia claims 6million jews vs 15-55 million chinese starved in famine. So maybe it’s pushing it, but not by much.
While they were one of the most prominently targeted, Jewish people were not the only victims the Holocaust. Somewhere between 11-20 million people in total were murdered by the Nazis.
More than that as well, 24 million people in Russia alone
And chinese weren’t the only victims of communism.
??? 15-55 million people starved in the famine. You’re the one that said Chinese specifically, despite that being the total human death toll estimate.
You were comparing the total of one to a subset of another, that’s the only reason I commented on it. What exactly are you trying to dispute with your last comment?
A famine caused by mismanagement is a damn sight different from the deliberate and industrialized mass-extermination of entire ethnic groups.
For sure, it’s not really apples to apples. I just don’t really know what you mean by “Holocaust revisionism” in this context. Typically that refers to people claiming the numbers of deaths in the Holocaust are inflated, no? Which in this particular conversation does not seem to be the case, at least to me.
Don’t forget millions of girls that went “missing” between 1980 and 2015. This number is also likely higher than the holocaust. Unimaginable.