It’s not like any candidate was actually good but they did pick the worst one.

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    She asked you to give a definition of fascism that doesn’t include the liberal democracies, and you went with "meets some (but not all) of the list from Ur-fascism), a standard that would absolutely include all of the liberal democracies.

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      If your liberal democracy puts you into a mental health ward or gulag for your opinion about the system it’s not a liberal democracy. ML states OTOH really like to do that. There’s an inherent totalitarianism to them, they demand that everyone thinks precisely like some centralised decision organ decides, and you tankies will even defend that. Note here totalitarian vs. authoritarian: Thought itself is controlled, not just practical behaviour (fulfilling the quota won’t help you, you still can’t complain). That kind of monopolisation of the prerogative of interpretation is a practical sign of fascism, once it is coalesced. The Ur-fascism points are merely crystallisation points.

      The very point that you can type all that in (presumably) a liberal democracy without getting disappeared means that you’re not living under fascism.

      It’s really something, MLs having so shit takes that you make me defend liberal democracies.

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        If your liberal democracy puts you into a mental health ward or gulag for your opinion about the system it’s not a liberal democracy.

        No True Scotsmen ey?

        ML states OTOH really like to do that.

        Bold claim; back it up.

        There’s an inherent totalitarianism to them, they demand that everyone thinks precisely like some centralised decision organ decides

        Well this is just a factually untrue caricature.

        and you tankies will even defend that.

        I’m not going to defend something that isn’t even true.

        Thought itself is controlled

        You’ve watched too many sci-fi movies.

        That kind of monopolisation of the prerogative of interpretation is a practical sign of fascism, once it is coalesced.

        Interesting theory; what do you base it on?

        The Ur-fascism points are merely crystallisation points.

        No it isn’t.

        The very point that you can type all that in (presumably) a liberal democracy without getting disappeared means that you’re not living under fascism.

        Never said I was; you were the one who articulated a definition of fascism that included liberal democracies.

        It’s really something, MLs having so shit takes that you make me defend liberal democracies.

        Lol, it doesn’t take much.