Yes they can freely go to the two countries the freedom government tells them they can go to and only for a certain amount of time, they have to come back.
Your points had zero hard data to back them up even though you presented it as such so I’m supposed to listen to you like you know what you’re talking about with this? You have already proven you don’t vet your sources or at least present them in a way you know didn’t have merit.
For sure the US government produces propaganda I know this to be true. And for sure some of that is about NK.
However, am I supposed to just close my eyes and plug my ears when I can see actual evidence of what I just wrote with my own two eyeballs and that has sources from many countries around the world some of them that also hate the USA?
Wtf is that about? Lol I’m not saying everything that is said about NK is true there’s dumb shit all the time but dude you can SEE what I am talking about.
You guys are aware that people in other countries can use the internet freely right? I don’t understand how you can expect people to ignore something they can see happening.
Its like the way they try to say Israel is right in what they do and aren’t doing a genoice and you can just look up on google maps where they’ve razed all of Gaza.
You can see that shit lol propaganda worked better before people could just instantly pull up photographs and videos of the truth.
“North Korea does not normally release detailed economic data, making it difficult to obtain accurate information about its economy. Instead, estimates are often derived from “mirror statistics” reported by its trade partners.”
Again, no hard government data so you are going to have to rely on other sources for these claims.
The graph you shared was from IMHE which is University of Washington, (which is funny because you knowing that they didn’t record starvation made that graph very optically look a certain way that “hard data” didn’t support because NK doesn’t have any hard data they share on the subject) so if you want data that isn’t tainted by imperialist western sources you’ll have to find it and provide it for us all!
Surely you wouldn’t suggest that these sources are ok for some information and not for others about the same country? That would be weird.
So the graph you shared that uses official government data isn’t able to get access to that data from DPRK and be able to use it in that graph.
Why post the graph then? Thought this was about facts and not simply optics of having one line graph of a country that doesn’t record starvation rates compared to another country that does?
How do you know that the starvation rate is going down? What data are you using to reach that conclusion? Can you share it?
The only hunger data publically reported is from the same organizations I shared links to earlier since again the government of north Korea doesn’t see it as a priority to record starvation rates of its own people.
You have zero “hard data” (like you accused me of ignoring earlier) to prove that. There’s many, many countries that aren’t just western that have hard data about it.
So you have zero evidence of this. Simple as that.
“North Korea isn’t good at record keeping”
“Oh so you’re just going to let your western perceptions ignore hard data”
“North Korea literally doesn’t keep starvation records so here’s hard data from the only agencies on the entire planet that do”
“A lot if that reporting is farcical”
Lol do I have that right?
So the USA is the one shooting those kids and women in the back?
That’s wild. Every single video that you can watch with your own eyes shows them to be North Korean guards.
Agree that US swings its dick around a lot though. Cuba is more of a victim of this than North Korea but its wild because a Cuban can leave without getting shot in the back, despite crippling sanctions.
That’s funny because I could get a passport and travel to a country that my country is at war with right now.
They would advise against it and make me sign a bunch of shit saying I accepted the danger but there would be no shooting me and my children in the back while we swim away.
This is not a fairly common practice.
Ok. You know anyone can look up what north Korea is like right?
And I just looked it up NK has no official data keeping for recording of starvation deaths. Can you provide one? No?
So how does the data you provided make any sense if it requires using a countries own documentation for starvation rates?
No more talk about “relying on western perceptions instead of hard data” talking points anymore Cowbee? Let’s see that hard data that North Korea keeps for starvation rates that they publically say they don’t keep.
The true hallmark of a free society.
Us sanctions affect things a little but when you shoot people for trying to swim or run out of your country are sanctions really what’s keeping your people trapped?
“Comparisons between countries and over time may beaffected by differences in diagnostic practices and deathcertification.”
Yes North Korea is notorious for good record keeping. They never even kept record of how many died during the Arduous March which I noticed you mentioned was due in part to weather but never mentioned the rampant economic mismanagement that went into play as well.
Yeah starvation usually doesn’t count towards suicide rates so I bet the metric is off quite a bit for North Koreas.
Ah yes North Korea. Known across the world for its championing of human rights and robust free thinking society.
You ever see the videos where they shoot at women and children who try to escape?
You can see it clearly on many widely available videos and photographs that they do this.
Such a great prosperous country needs to force people by gun point to stay?
You can get online and see hundreds of videos where they shoot men women and children trying to escape.
Why do they shoot the men women and children who are trying to escape?
It was made by the NSA so that’s already minus 5 points right there.
I’m not kidding. Look it up on DDG.
Good for 3-8 year olds that’s because of a weight limit of 70 pounds.
Yessss let it die sonpeoppe can finally switch to non Microsoft alternatives.
Its already working with the Linux and Mac market shares increasing lately. Please pleeeeeaaaassssseeeee let them drop the ball.
So now that you were made aware of the fact that your university of Washington affiliated data graph didn’t include accurate data due to a deliberate choice made by the DPRK of not providing that data would you still say that that is a proper source?
Would you still say you vetted that?
If so, then absolutely nothing you say has any merit. You clearly can’t admit when you don’t share good data or are incapable of understanding that its bad data which is even worse and goes back to jot vetting properly.