We’re gonna be finding this stuff for years, aren’t we?
One of the reasons to play through multiple times is just having different Origin character party member compositions. One or more characters can chime in during dialogue, and changing the combination of characters can dramatically change the whole scene. I have all the murder hobo vibe characters, and it’s like the devs knew this combo would be common and I’m getting hella scenes I never saw in 2 previous playthroughs.
Ok so who’s the hobo party besides Astarion?
Minthara and Lae’zel.
The only 3 at this point in the game that, if they used the alignment system, I’m sure would be one type of evil or another. I’ve had a couple surprise moments where all 3 join in a short discussion, playing off each other’s lines. I’ve had Lae’zel before, but I’ve never really kept Astarion around (unless I needed something with a DC of 30 lockpicked) and this is my first evil run, so Minthara isn’t a smouldering pile of ash this time.
I need to swap Gale out on my evil run but I just can’t give up that sweet, sweet fireball.
Lae’zel for sure. And probably dark Shadowheart? That’s who i have been using for my evil durge run and they all seem to be on the same page.
Minthara, Astarion, and Shadowheart for me. Bad blood between SH and Lae’zel, obvs. I typically get a lot more approval for my dastardly behavior from Minth and Asta; Shadowheart just kinda goes along with it, unless we’re killing folks she really hates like Selunites.
One of my main complaints so far is that other party members seldomly pipe in during convos. I get why they didn’t do it more, as the game is massive with already a sheer amount of dialogue, but it makes my party feel kinda flat. Like sure they do little quips or remarks while walking around, but even those aren’t very frequent. Maybe it changes further into the game, but I’m about 35 hours in and done almost everything in act 1 so far. I’ll be thrilled if this changes in later acts!
Question. When you first learn that he’s a vampire it looks like he is ABOUT TO bite you. But during the dialogue I noticed that bite marks showed up on my neck. So, I kicked him out because fuck you for biting me while I sleep. But then the marks went away right away.
Dis he bite me or was that a bug?
You need to take some things into account.
Without any influence, Astarion is a lying manipulative asshat.
You catch Astarion on the second or third night sleeping with him in your camp, as far as I found, never on the first.
That fucker succeeded previously, It’s just that THIS time you woke up.
If you consent to him biting you later on,
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He tells you that you’re his first time of tasting a human. He’s been surviving on animals only. Ofc he could be lying/acting but he comes across unusually sincere and vurnarable.
I don’t think so? Him biting you gives you the negative stat Bloodless, and you only get that after you let him bite you (that stat is why I never let him get his teeth near me again. It screwed all my dice rolls). I think he was sneaking off before to go hunt animals.
That scene took a surprising amount of time to trigger in my first attempt. I’d already cleared out the Goblin camp and was half-way through the Underdark - must have been at least 10 long rests at that point.
I think that has to be a bug. You’re supposed to be able to let him bite you consensually (or deny him) later.
I mean… Sometimes when you sleep the first time after getting him in your party/camp, it shows him creeping around the campsite like a creeper during the “cutscene” of you all sleeping around the fire. Before the reveal, I thought he was just stealing my shit. It wouldn’t surprise me if there was some kind of hidden roll or RNG that made bite marks appear on me before the consensual bite.
The best part is Astarian’s neck bite marks are blindingly obvious the first time you meet him if you look at his neck.
They really are. I don’t know how anyone misses them, or the pointy teeth.
Only noticed after that whole scene already played out, but just rifling through the stuff at his tent reveals what is referred to in text as an empty blood jar, and there’s a spattered bowl off to the side on a rock.
The huge mirror, sure, I just assumed it was a humorous nod at his vanity. But seriously? How does the entire party miss all of this? He’d have to sparkle to be more obvious.
Actually, no, Astarion would 100% wear body glitter or at least get someone else’s on him.
If someone told Asterion that some vampires sparkle, you just know that man would find the nearest vat of glitter and start rolling in it.
Ah, ok. I wonder if they fixed it because I saw that multiple times, because I’ve restarted the game 4 times before I learned of Withers.
Frankly, I booted him after the initial interaction in my first playthrough way back in early beta and haven’t added him at all in any run since. Fuck Astarion. Lying, piece of shit, low-effort sleep rapist.
Seems to be the consensus.
Man… I guess considering your strong feelings about it, you’re better off without him, but he’s one of the most interesting companions in the game. He has a tragic backstory, and a cunning personality. He’s my second favorite companion overall. I was this close to betraying Karlach because of his machinations.
Never. Betray. Karlach. 🔥❤️☠️
I didn’t.
Ah yes. Headline spoilers. Why not?
Feel free to go over to PC Gamer and complain to them about their headline choice.
Is this their post or yours?
It’s THEIR HEADLINE.
Somebody stop that girl!
Seriously what the fuck
Y’all are gonna have to define “spoilers,” because to me, a “spoiler” is something that reveals a major plot point, not a random, completely missable scene that you only come across if you do one certain event that you might not do in a quest that can actually be skipped, and if the RNG gods chose a certain character to bear the brunt of it.
They are probably talking about Astarion being a vampire. Granted it is revealed early and somewhat obvious (deliberately), but still a spoiler
His description on the character creation screen outright says he’s a vampire. Easy enough to miss if you jump for the custom creator right away, but he’s the first origin character in the list.
I didn’t even see the origin screen when I created my character, and I’ve never played either of the first two games. I don’t think it was obvious just by game play that he’s a vampire, for one, he’s walking around in sunlight. I was very surprised by that bite scene where his true nature is revealed. That’s a pretty big spoiler.
That’s true. I mean, I pegged it as soon as I saw him and the bite scars on his neck the first time you see him, so if that’s it, that part didn’t even register, it was so long ago in my playthrough.
At a month out, though, I think people are gonna have to deal with early game “spoilers” being out there. Five minutes on tumblr and you know Gale’s whole story at this point.
He has bite scars on his neck?!? Man, the PS5 is fun to play on, but it certainly misses out on some of the finer graphical details.
While I don’t have a problem with this particular post, the “it’s been out for a while so I’m not going to be careful about spoiling” attitude has never been helpful in video game discussion. Especially for a game that’s about to see an influx of players from another release shortly, and then again late in the year.
I’ll be careful about anything that’s actually a spoiler, though, because no one likes things like how BioWare spoiled who the Big Bad is in Inquisition with a codex in DLC you get early game. But this; a random and rare character interaction, is not one, and if someone is really this stickler about what they think constitutes one, they’ve honestly got to completely avoid things like communities about the game.
You also included one of the methods of triggering a voice line in the title itself. Double spoilers that could have been avoided if you ended the title before the colon.
Lol. Lmao even.
The sequence of steps you need to see this stuff is absolutely bonkers. Like, 99% of players will never see this one voice line naturally.
Unless “doing things in the game triggers voice lines” is somehow a spoiler now? Spoiler: when you beat this game, the credits roll showing who made the game!
The title reveals nothing other than “hey there’s a sun ray that can nuke someone.” It doesn’t say anything about the nature of the ray, where it is, how to activate it, or anything. In fact, the thing mentioned in the title is such a niche thing in a niche location that most people will miss it, and can only be activated if you do this niche sidequest in a very specific way. You pretty much have to try to do it (assuming you even discover it in the first place - again, it’s easily missable).
On top of that, this is something you can trigger within the first half-hour of the game if you tried. It’s firmly in Act 1. It has nothing to do with the story, it’s just a place you can find early on.
Should I mention that this same act of the game has a wizard’s tower in it? Oh, no! Spoilers! A fantasy DnD game has a wizard tower! Hopefully there are no voice lines in there!
The sequence of steps you need to see this stuff is absolutely bonkers. Like, 99% of players will never see this one voice line naturally.
I saw on Twitter the steps you have to go through to make it happen, and to see it naturally, you’ve basically got to playing like a complete chaos agent and have the RNG luck to have Asterion be one of your party members killed by it when it goes off.
It doesn’t say the sun’s ray can nuke someone, it says that using a sun ray in Astarian results in a voice line. Which is probably going to be snarky based on his character and the fact that you meet him during the day and have an early conversation with him about sunlight.
The number of creatures that are affected by the spell and look like a regular humanoid in D&D is pretty low, so the first spoiler is what Astarian is and the second is that a voice line is prompted by the interaction.
You might be too thick to understand what a spoiler is since you think when something happens in the storyline impacts whether it is a spoiler, but just accept the fact that it is and some people don’t like having it in post titles they cannot avoid.
It’s not a spoiler, it doesn’t spoil anything
Thanks for telling me it’s not spoiled for me
It doesn’t say anything about him being a vampire in the headline, I think? I’d be pissed if you shot me with a sun ray too. If I didn’t die.
I took that bit out of the headline here just in case, but it’s still in the headline of the story, so anyone clicking on it will see it.
Doesn’t he reveal it in literally the first conversation with him? Or do you have to actually talk to him a second time to get that detail? That’s hardly a spoiler.
You just took away the ability from anyone seeing this post to discover it on their own. In other words you SPOILED IT. Hence, spoiler.
To discover he’s a vampire? His character video in the character creation part tells you that.
Just, please. Don’t nuke him with a sun ray.
He gets better
Fucking spoilers dude
