The main cloud services don’t even work natively (GoogleDrive, OneDrive, iCloud) basically the only mainstream choice is Dropbox. I tried to use Google Drive in Mint, and it’s a pain to get it to work, and usually it stops working after computer restarts.

Someone has a recommendation about how to handle these services?

  • Quazatron@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    116
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    I keep seeing this question pop up. “Why doesn’t [closed/proprietary technology] work well in Linux?”

    This question should be asked at whoever makes said technology. You are their client, why don’t they support your operating system?

    That responsibility should not fall on the shoulders of the thankless volunteers that do their best to create an awesome OS.

    Alternatively you can buy one of the commercial distributions and become a client. Then you can ask your supplier why don’t they support that technology.

    • LiveLM@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      1 year ago

      Case in point, Mega.nz offers a native GUI client for Linux and went out of their way to also make a full command line client.
      Support those services that don’t treat you like ass, y’know?

    • desconectado@lemm.eeOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      1 year ago

      I agree! But it’s surprising that even Google doesn’t have a native app for Drive. There’s one for android, but not for Linux? I’m guessing it all boils down to number of users, but still…

  • Max_Power@feddit.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    42
    ·
    1 year ago

    If you want cloud storage I’d recommend Nextcloud as a service (I’m not affiliated with them, just a customer)

    Works like a charm. You can even install plugins. Also, there are other companies that provide hosting so there is no vendor-lock-in.

      • soniquest@lemmy.studio
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I have a raspberry pi 2, would this handle Nextcloud? Any recommendations for a hard drive to use with it please?

        • ikidd@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          Being 32 bit, it’s getting a bit old for using it with modern software. But maybe take a look at this and give it a try:

          https://help.nextcloud.com/t/how-to-install-nextcloudpi/126308

          NextcloudPi is a fairly low-maintenance version of NC, the only way I’d recommend installing it besides as a docker image. Straight installing NC is a recipe for disaster, it’s notoriously bad at updating that way.

          Whatever you do, don’t use the builtin web updater inside NC to update nextcloud itself. Their app updater is fine, but the actual Nextcloud web updater is utter dogshit and will break things.

    • CtrlAltOoops@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      I second that.

      With the additional advantage that rclone has modules like crypt and join, which allows you to keep your data encrypted no matter which cloud you use, gaining more cloud space by joining clouds, etc.

      • SALT@lemmy.my.id
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        rclone

        rclone bisync, even it’s not good in production, I been using it for 1.5 years, just need to check the log regularly… I just hope this function become stable enough to be on mainstream, then almost all cloud storage works well on it…

          • SALT@lemmy.my.id
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            Just make sure, that you have logs for it, and check before sync. because sometimes in bisync, you can lost your file… but I already manage it by excluding a lot of .swp, ~.lock., and other temp files… Mostly temp files is there cause of broken bisync, and when resync, the file that suppose to be synced, deleted…

  • RoboRay@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Google drive integrates simply into the file manager on Gnome for cloud storage. It doesn’t do offline file-sync between devices, however.

    The Microsoft and Apple products don’t support Linux because… Microsoft and Apple.

      • RoboRay@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        No, the Google Drive implementation is just for cloud storage. It doesn’t do offline file-sync. I’ll update my earlier comment.

    • OboTheHobo@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      I managed to get one drive working on linux, able to mount it onto the filesystem using rclone.

      • RoboRay@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Yes, it’s often possible to get unsupported services working, but it’s rarely simple and it’s prone to breakage over time with changes to the system as well as to the service. I do not recommend it to anyone seeking a simple solution and I will not do it for someone I need to support.

    • LonelyWendigo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      I sick of seeing Google Drive recommended as an alternative to dropbox. (Because I am looking for an alternative to dropbox and so far nothing has feature parity with it and the features I value.) If an app forces me to be logged in to a graphical environment locally on Linux then it has already failed to understand why people use *nix. Google Drive doesn’t keep offline copies and it doesn’t work on CLI. So basically useless on my server. If the files aren’t natively and transparently accesible as a local filesystem while they are synced to the cloud, it’s not a viable Linux Dropbox alternative. I want my files on my machine and a copy on the cloud, not the other way round.

      • RoboRay@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        I have not and do not recommend it. I simply responded to the claim that it doesn’t work, because it does. OP has something else going on that’s causing Google Drive problems.

        I use both Dropbox and Mega and recommend either for someone seeking a simple cloud-sync solution.

  • bceuhwps@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    29
    ·
    1 year ago

    Rclone is awesome. Mega and PCloud got native clients that works great. Nextcloud is an alternative.

  • merthyr1831@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    1 year ago

    Nextcloud works great! Includes integrations with GNOME and KDE including taskbar icons etc. and you can pay a service to host Nextcloud for you if you’d prefer that to selfhosting.

  • Luckyfriend222@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    1 year ago

    I have a self-hosted Nextcloud and my Nextcloud account connected via GNOME as an Online Account. It integrates seamlessly with Calendar, gives me a webdav mount for my files etc. I don’t have any issues. I have not added any Google accounts, and definitely no Microsoft accounts. I don’t use public clouds for private stuff.

    • woelkchen@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      I have a self-hosted Nextcloud and my Nextcloud account connected via GNOME as an Online Account.

      The self-hosted bit is the problem. I have yet to find a Nextcloud provider that offers the service truly ready to go. The ones I found try to make it somewhat easy by offering Install buttons in web interfaces but if you have absolutely no clue about such things, even that is a hurdle to overcome.

  • flashgnash@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Syncthing is pretty good. I’ve got a raspberry pi running it on my local network with an old usb hard drive I had kicking around and it works great

    • arthurpizza@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      Just to be clear, Syncthing is not cloud storage but file syncing. It can be used in a similar way but it does have different strengths and weaknesses.

  • episode3805@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    1 year ago

    rsync/ rclone just works! Have not tried rsync with cloud yet, I use rclone for encrypted backups. Most cloud services are supported including google drive.

  • Don Corleone@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    1 year ago

    For command line sync to the cloud you can use rclone. It’s FOSS and works with many different cloud providers.

    For a constant sync experience you can use insync. It’s closed source and requires a license though, but works reasonably well.

    Sorry for the lack of direct links since I’m on the phone.

    • buskbrand@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      You don’t need insync - most people just automate rclone sync commands using whatever task scheduler their system runs by default (cronjobs or systemd units, typically). For those who prefer a GUI, KDE has a Scheduled Tasks app.

      On Android, you can use Round Sync which is a wrapper around rclone and can import the same configs.

    • Ezahn@mastodon.uno
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      @fossisfun @desconectado Still, if I was Microsoft I think I’ll develop an official OneDrive client for Linux. And I hope in the future they’ll realize it’s not a bad opportunity for them and for fidelizing users.

    • toketin@feddit.it
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Hi, I quote this, Syncthing+Nextcloud if you want to share directories, files, calendar, contatcs etc with someone, for example your family.

    • TCB13@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Syncthing is a very good piece of software, even when working cross-platform. Nextcloud, however, is the biggest and most cumbersome pile of garbage open-source produced in the last decate.

      Currently I’m running Syncthing on my NAS and all my devices sync to it (no cross-device sync to avoid issues). Then I’ve an SMB share to allow access to the files on iOS devices and FileBrowser for a cloud-like web browser access experience. Works flawlessly uses very little RAM and its solid, private, secure and manageable open-source - not something like Nextcloud that calls home, breaks everything on upgrades, wastes ram and runs slowly to only deliver an inferior experience in all possible ways.

      Some of my experiences with NC are described in detail at https://lemmy.world/comment/1571886 and https://lemmy.world/comment/346174

        • TCB13@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Nextcloud is everything other than minimization and stability. I bet if you take a quick look at their repositories you’ll find security-wise questionable stuff very fast and also tons of different pieces not a single thing.