For a piracy-oriented community I’m surprised this isn’t discussed as much.
Do you ever store media, or delete them after watching? How do you store them?
I personally have 12TB worth of hard drives (3x4TB) in a JBOD configuration. Been wanting to upgrade my hard drives (they’re 6 years old) but I’m still a little skeptical of the helium drives and whether they will last…
You can also look at !datahoarder@lemmy.ml for this kind of questions. It was full of good advice on reddit and I’m sure it will be equivalent on Lemmy.
!selfhosted@lemmy.world can also be pretty useful.
oh good call, thanks!
No media get’s deleted unless it’s redundant. All stored at my home NAS, currently with 42TB capactiy.
damn how’s your NAS configured? How many drives do you have?
jbod. It’s 2x6TB in the NAS and then USB drives (2x 5TB, 1x18TB and a 2TB SSD for music).
JBOD?
You’re a brave soul. Best of luck to you
Dudes just out there raw dogging those drives. That takes some guts man. Not sure I have it in me to take an approach like that but it’s something I aspire to. For now, it’s rclone replication.
Is JBOD a risky method?
It means that a disk goes bad and you lose the data. Typically there is some form of protection. I use standard raid 10 which is a bit dated but modern approaches like erasure coding are getting more common. Even if it’s JBOD, you should have a copy of the data in case a drive dies. That’s the value of like raid 5 since it gives you most of the drive space and tolerates a drive failure. RAID is available in software but I’m still using older LSI hardware controllers. A RAID1 mirror would basically be similar to just copying files from one drive to another manually. You get half the storage space but don’t panic when a drive dies. The thing is that drives do die. They are viewed as consumables and thus the question is always WHEN not IF they will die.
I don’t have tons of digital media so it’s stored on 2 4TB portable HDD’s.
I only regularly download and keep things that either aren’t available on streaming or are removed from streaming services.
But since the writers strikes I download most things I want to watch as the streamers aren’t getting any more of my money until they pay writers what they’re worth.
This is not to be taken as offensive just curious.
how does the writer strike change anything? youre still pirating are you not regardless?! I’m confused on how your ethics/ morals applied when they weren’t on strike.
Until the strike I was subscribed to Apple TV, Paramount+, Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon Prime so I don’t pirate unless what I want isn’t available on physical disc or streaming.
If a streaming service removes original content because they don’t want to pay residuals I’ll torrent it.
Likewise anything new that comes out during the strike I’ll torrent. Once they start paying the writers fairly and guarantee protections agains AI for writers and actors I’ll be more than happy to start giving them my money again. But as things stand the studios pocket 99% of the money hence the strikes.
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I only store “rare old hard to get stuff that I loved a lot” but I just delete everything else after watching so I never have more than a 1TB drive half empty from which I also delete what I downloaded but will never watch after some time. All of that on my Raspberry pi home server with Emby and CasaOs.
This is the way. No point spending hundreds of dollars keeping up with the data imo.
4x 18TB (ironwolf)
2x 250GB (970 evos) SSD cache
SHR (1 disk redundancy)
in a synology DS918+ NAS,
gives me ~47TB usable space in one enclosure
and
4x 8TB (ironwolf)
RAID 5 (1 disk redundancy)
in a OWC Mercury Elite Pro Quad
gives me ~25TB usable space in the other
I have about 15TB of media stored, I like 4K HDR DV content and tend to rewatch stuff a lot. I don’t store anything that I have access to on a streaming service (unless it’s not available in 4K)
damn, 4k takes up so much space.
Games and softwares: I store the installers, delete if I don’t like it
Music: store them all, even if some songs in an album isn’t my cup of tea
Videos: want to save all of them, but my storage is pretty small in the first place, so I pick the ones I really like
Ebooks: only downloaded a few, but still save them all
Mangas: usually save unless I don’t really like it or no reason to reread
When I had 500gb of storage (cheap external SSD), I had a decent range of movies and tv, and whenever I finished watching a movie or series I would delete it unless I knew I would watch it again within the next year or so. Out of 500gb, I had about 200gb that was pretty static, and 300gb of space dedicated towards new stuff. I recently upgraded to a 4tb internal hdd for storage so I’m having more movies and tv available, but I still get rid of movies and tv that I likely won’t rewatch within the next year. I have 125 ebooks downloaded but it’s only at 400 MB so I’m not going to bother trimming down that collection except when I don’t like a book.
Games and music are the two things I don’t have an overwhelming urge to pirate, I mainly buy indie games on steam and pay $10 a month for the convenience of streaming music through tidal (I tried pirating my music with lidarr, but it was such a PITA to get everything I wanted, especially since I love trying new artists
I store as much as I can on NAS. You never know when you’ll have internet issues while still having power or when something will be pulled from the net.
I have ~115TB of spinning rust currently. I house them (collection of 8-14TB WD white labels) in a DS4243 in which I replaced the IOM3s with IOM6s. I have this hooked up to a R630 (via an H200 IT controller) running ESXi with several VMs including a Windows VM running SnapRAID+Drivepool to manage the storage. I have the pool setup as a network share and run a docker stack with in which I bind the storage in fstab to my *arr setup, nzbhydra, rdt-client, etc. Someday I may transition to a full Linux setup with freenas, but this setup has served me well for years.
May you please translate ELI5 this for me? I have a full attic of DvDs and VHS tapes I need to backup and your method sounds promising.
I used to store all my music on an HDD but the more, I thought about it. The less I did it. Still have about 68GB of music but won’t continue doing so. Don’t really keep movies or TV Shows stored, as I know, I will watch them once and then never again - Same thing for games.
Perhaps I will in the future when I can actually afford decent HDD/SSD’s. I’m curious how other do it.
Storage space isn’t as big a problem for music - for me, tv shows are the main issue.
I like to rewatch shows a lot in the background - I like having The Office or How I Met Your Mother on while i’m doing chores or something, so I have a lot of shows stored. It takes a lot of HDD space, but I also don’t have to pay for 3 different streaming services just to watch 3 shows
I keep everything I download as long as it’s of sufficient quality on many large HDD’s. Most of my media is then served through Jellyfin. Considering the state of the internet recently I think it’s important to download what you care about before it becomes unavailable.
Do you have all your hard drives connected to your computer/NAS or are they in cold storage? I have 6 HDDs/SSDs combined on my computer and no more available SATA/M2 slots…
Not all are connected, and I don’t think it would be wise to do so in the long run anyway if I keep trying to preserve data like I am. Eventually I’ll have a proper backup system and a dedicated NAS.
Buy cheap 4 bay nas and 3-4 disks (3 disks minimum) and setup raid 5 which will allow one disk failure. If a disk fails, pop disk out, put new one in (equivalent size or larger) and it will rebuild.
You could probably try build one using normal pc hardware and freenas software, but I personally find a purpose built nas operating system less of a headache and fairly cost effective
i’ve been looking into snapRAID. It’s software-based and seems to work great if you don’t write/delete that much. Doesn’t require a NAS setup too, it can work on an existing install and hard drives with existing data!
Since I mainly download music, yes I store it forever. Too much good stuff just disappears online especially stuff I listen to.
As for shows and movies, I download and save more obscure stuff, but I really watch TV/movies anyways so.
I currently have a 18tb drive that I got for like $140.
Same here, but nostalgy has pushed me to hold on that media dubbed in the language I grew with. I now live on a different country with same language, but the dub is way different.
Hard to find old 70’s, 80’s stuff
Thats a totally a fair thing to store, dubs of different languages tend to be worse preserved.
that’s a really good price. was it used?
New, was some price fuck up iirc
I have around 80TB comprised of 8-14TB WD drives (mostly Elements/EasyStore shucked from their cases) in my Fractal Design Define R6 case. I typically don’t delete anything unless it was a user requested item thats no longer being used with little replayability (stuff like Survivor or other reality TV). Currently running it all on windows with SnapRAID and DrivePool to manage the storage.
I store pretty much everything unless there is no chance for reuse. My current setup is a 4u unRAID server with 108TB of double parity protected storage (plus 2 2TB NVME drives in raid 1 for cache).
I’m finally settling up a NAS and media server myself beyond just an old gaming computer. What do you use to setup caching on your nvme drives?
The caching is a feature built into unRAID (which is the server OS I run. It’s not free but it’s a lifetime license for a super reasonable price. https://unraid.net/
Absolutely second Unraid, easy to set up, Parity drive gives you protection against drive failure and dockers are an immense bonus. I have Jellyfish as a docker to serve my media around my home or when I’m out and about. Can use Gelli on Android just to listen to the music on my server.
Other plus, Unraid is essentially a JBOD so you can increase its size when ever you need to.
Think I paid £60-70 about 8-9 years ago and it’s been worth every penny.
Can’t praise it enough.
students get 40 % off too
I have Jellyfin set up a with a few drives in jbod on my server. I have the list of what media I have on it stored elsewhere though, and losing one of the drives wouldn’t be a tragedy. I usually stick already used ones into that role. My internet’s that fast that it would only take a week or so to re-download all 8TB. I use Sonarr & Radarr though, so it would also be trivial for me to automate that process.
